Brilliant Conversation - 135 vs Camaro SS - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

stovt001 · 03-22-2009, 04:16 PM

Edmunds.com said they'd be adding a Camaro to their Long Term test fleet soon. In the meantime, they posted the transcripts of a dialogue two editors had and much of it was whether they'd have the BMW 135 over the Camaro SS. I found it fascinating because their back and forth of beauty and performance vs size is exactly the struggle I'm having here. Good news is, my position has improved somewhat since yesterday, as you can see in the comment I posted. Enjoy!

http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...the-world.html

TheCaptain · 03-22-2009, 05:11 PM

lol, in Canadian, "how a-boat we do that"
My vote Camaro, of course. The BMW would be nice, but i want some torque to go with my ponies. (not that the M is really short on torque)
And nothing like a car with a storied history to it, and a Bowtie on the front!

And, when you pull up behind someone in a beamer, they think, "oh that prick with the small dick wants past me eh? I'll show him!"
Pull up behind someone in a Camaro, and once they pick their jaw off the pavement, you'll be gone!

stovt001 · 03-22-2009, 05:13 PM

Well in all fairness BMW's twin turbo 3.0L makes its fair share of torque. The 135 is also a little heavier than its size would suggest. As far as pure speed the Camaro would win.

AZCamaroFan · 03-22-2009, 05:21 PM

I scrolled down the thing, and true to form Mullet's and Gold Chains come up. I only wish these haters would include a couple other stereotypes, and then they'd actually get in trouble. So far it's just italians from Jersey ,and Southerner's.

FLAWLS3 · 03-22-2009, 05:29 PM

that really was a good convo, and I did love the part about the sofa suspension, hahaha. Let me tell you the 135 is an awesome car.

*The_Blur* · 03-22-2009, 05:40 PM

There's not much to disrespect about that BMW, but the Camaro is perhaps the best engineered car of our day, as evidenced by the input from GM insiders here on Camaro5.

stovt001 · 03-22-2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azfan

I scrolled down the thing, and true to form Mullet's and Gold Chains come up. I only wish these haters would include a couple other stereotypes, and then they'd actually get in trouble. So far it's just italians from Jersey ,and Southerner's.

It was done in jest. Notice it came right on the heals of the joke about BMW paying them to pick to the 1 Series. Part of the point of this conversation was to satirize the stereotypes.

PQ · 03-22-2009, 05:46 PM

The 335i HT Vert would have been my choice 2 years ago. But I've been waiting for this Camaro for 20 years. I just didn't know what it would look like.

eddiehaskell · 03-22-2009, 05:52 PM

I like the Camaro better - mainly because I find the 135i very ugly. A few other reasons I'd pass:

- the closest BMW dealership is 50 miles away, so it would be a decently long drive to get it serviced.
- I wouldn't want to own a BMW out of warranty
- the Camaro is $5-6k cheaper so it fits my budget better
- I like to tweak my cars and Camaros are usually easy to work on - plus there is a huge selection of cheap parts
- I like the extra power of the Camaro

stovt001 · 03-22-2009, 05:58 PM

That's my exact line of reasoning too, though I do think BMW's are pretty tunable. My uncle just bought a CPO 325 convertible. I can't wait to see what the upkeep bills look like. Fine cars, but a high price to pay.

ArcAngel · 03-22-2009, 06:06 PM

HEY WHAT ABOUT ITALIANS FROM THE JERSEY SHORE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I Resemble that remark !!! LOL

Tal · 03-22-2009, 06:15 PM

The 135 seems a little small to me but I've thought about it a bit. I haven't bothered with a test drive myself but BMW's taking strides backwards in styling IMO and their current lineup is just so boring to look at. If the price was lower or performance higher maybe the styling could be overlooked but as is BMW is making themselves very easy to overlook IMO.

ArcAngel · 03-22-2009, 06:18 PM

I agree Tal there cars are getting uglier and uglier they keep pushing the roundness/ eggness forward yuck!

03-22-2009, 04:16 PM	#1
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Brilliant Conversation - 135 vs Camaro SS Edmunds.com said they'd be adding a Camaro to their Long Term test fleet soon. In the meantime, they posted the transcripts of a dialogue two editors had and much of it was whether they'd have the BMW 135 over the Camaro SS. I found it fascinating because their back and forth of beauty and performance vs size is exactly the struggle I'm having here. Good news is, my position has improved somewhat since yesterday, as you can see in the comment I posted. Enjoy! http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...the-world.html __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

03-22-2009, 05:11 PM	#2
TheCaptain N7 Spectre Drives: 14 ATS Performance 3.6L AWD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moosomin, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 2,734 View My Garage	lol, in Canadian, "how a-boat we do that" My vote Camaro, of course. The BMW would be nice, but i want some torque to go with my ponies. (not that the M is really short on torque) And nothing like a car with a storied history to it, and a Bowtie on the front! And, when you pull up behind someone in a beamer, they think, "oh that prick with the small dick wants past me eh? I'll show him!" Pull up behind someone in a Camaro, and once they pick their jaw off the pavement, you'll be gone! __________________

03-22-2009, 05:13 PM	#3
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Well in all fairness BMW's twin turbo 3.0L makes its fair share of torque. The 135 is also a little heavier than its size would suggest. As far as pure speed the Camaro would win. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

03-22-2009, 05:29 PM	#5
FLAWLS3 Drives: 2004 Silver Met BMW 330i ZHP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 46	that really was a good convo, and I did love the part about the sofa suspension, hahaha. Let me tell you the 135 is an awesome car. __________________ FLAWLS3

03-22-2009, 05:40 PM	#6
The_Blur Moderator Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 14,769	There's not much to disrespect about that BMW, but the Camaro is perhaps the best engineered car of our day, as evidenced by the input from GM insiders here on Camaro5. __________________ RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet// Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban

03-22-2009, 05:21 PM	#4
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,450	I scrolled down the thing, and true to form Mullet's and Gold Chains come up. I only wish these haters would include a couple other stereotypes, and then they'd actually get in trouble. So far it's just italians from Jersey ,and Southerner's.

03-22-2009, 05:46 PM	#8
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	The 335i HT Vert would have been my choice 2 years ago. But I've been waiting for this Camaro for 20 years. I just didn't know what it would look like. __________________

03-22-2009, 05:52 PM	#9
eddiehaskell Drives: Pinto Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 65	I like the Camaro better - mainly because I find the 135i very ugly. A few other reasons I'd pass: - the closest BMW dealership is 50 miles away, so it would be a decently long drive to get it serviced. - I wouldn't want to own a BMW out of warranty - the Camaro is $5-6k cheaper so it fits my budget better - I like to tweak my cars and Camaros are usually easy to work on - plus there is a huge selection of cheap parts - I like the extra power of the Camaro

03-22-2009, 05:58 PM	#10
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	That's my exact line of reasoning too, though I do think BMW's are pretty tunable. My uncle just bought a CPO 325 convertible. I can't wait to see what the upkeep bills look like. Fine cars, but a high price to pay. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

03-22-2009, 06:06 PM	#11
ArcAngel Drives: 07 Black Cobalt SS/SC Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manalapan-NJ Posts: 2,872	HEY WHAT ABOUT ITALIANS FROM THE JERSEY SHORE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I Resemble that remark !!! LOL __________________ Through HIM you believe in GOD, who raised HIM from the dead and Glorified him..

03-22-2009, 06:15 PM	#12
Tal Drives: Old Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: OK Posts: 726	The 135 seems a little small to me but I've thought about it a bit. I haven't bothered with a test drive myself but BMW's taking strides backwards in styling IMO and their current lineup is just so boring to look at. If the price was lower or performance higher maybe the styling could be overlooked but as is BMW is making themselves very easy to overlook IMO.

03-22-2009, 06:18 PM	#13
ArcAngel Drives: 07 Black Cobalt SS/SC Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manalapan-NJ Posts: 2,872	I agree Tal there cars are getting uglier and uglier they keep pushing the roundness/ eggness forward yuck! __________________ Through HIM you believe in GOD, who raised HIM from the dead and Glorified him..

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