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supasport · 07-31-2012, 11:38 PM

i know a local place here in garwood, NJ called "cartech" and this guy specializes really well in camaro's, trans ams, and vettes. He's really famous and has 7 second built cars all over the place.
I took a ride over there and i've been interested in getting a tune mainly for these two reasons:
1. Air flow meter or VVT(are they the same thing?) is ANNOYING AS HELL...........i can feel it with my headers and exhaust it sounds like a old fart going.
2. I want my car tuned for better performance.

So long story short..he gave me a price of 670$ for a dyno tune. He said he's going to tune the car so my engine light turns off and also delete the VVT. Now i was thinking... if i can just buy me a diablosport tuner for less than 300$ why am i going to spend double and some for a tune i can NOT turn off?

What do you guys think i should do? I think 670$ is BIZZARE.... i know they are specialized in this really well but i think its still insane.

Obzen · 07-31-2012, 11:41 PM

$670 is outrageous, for a tune. I'm one who prefers an in person custom tune either on a dyno, or on the street rather than using the "canned" tunes with the handheld tuners. With that said, I'd NEVER spend $670 on a tune.

supasport · 07-31-2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Obzen

$670 is outrageous, for a tune. I'm one who prefers an in person custom tune either on a dyno, or on the street rather than using the "canned" tunes with the handheld tuners. With that said, I'd NEVER spend $670 on a tune.

i knew i wasn't crazy......

Obzen · 07-31-2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by supasport

i knew i wasn't crazy......

I mean, if he's a VERY busy person and he usually only works on crazy custom cars I guess I can understand it but for you its way too much.

If you want the handheld tuner. Check these. Its $399 and it includes a custom tune for you.

http://jreperformanceparts.com/sct-x...10-camaro.html

supasport · 07-31-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Obzen

I mean, if he's a VERY busy person and he usually only works on crazy custom cars I guess I can understand it but for you its way too much.

If you want the handheld tuner. Check these. Its $399 and it includes a custom tune for you.

http://jreperformanceparts.com/sct-x...10-camaro.html

i need help understanding the difference between handheld tuners and custom tuners.. can they delete the VVT AFM? and are the results the same?
also who would i go to to do this?

Avenging Orange · 07-31-2012, 11:48 PM

I dont care how good you are. If you are tuning for most standard bolt ons, there is only so much you can do anyhow.
$400 is about the norm for a good dyno.
And Jannetty Racing seems to corner the market on the hand held stuff.

supasport · 07-31-2012, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Avenging Orange

I dont care how good you are. If you are tuning for most standard bolt ons, there is only so much you can do anyhow.
$400 is about the norm.

dont get me wrong, if it was 400 i'd pay him right away. people are telling me that they wont go wrong because they know how to tune these cars with their eyes closed. but also, i really don't feel like getting ripped for a tune

Obzen · 07-31-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by supasport

i need help understanding the difference between handheld tuners and custom tuners.. can they delete the VVT AFM? and are the results the same?
also who would i go to to do this?

Yes, it can delete that. I believe handheld tuners and custom tuners are one in the same. You use the handheld tuner, to upload the custom tune to your car.

If you went to a shop to do a tune. They would use a program rather than a handheld tuner. It accomplishes the same thing but with more detail.

Avenging Orange · 07-31-2012, 11:53 PM

There are many shops that can tune the LSx motors in their sleep. I'd shop around.

2010 SSRS · 07-31-2012, 11:53 PM

way too much for a tune, wow

Obzen · 07-31-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by supasport

dont get me wrong, if it was 400 i'd pay him right away. people are telling me that they wont go wrong because they know how to tune these cars with their eyes closed. but also, i really don't feel like getting ripped for a tune

If they can tune it with their eyes closed, it should be cheap not expensive.

LS tuning is easy, theres tons of shops around.

supasport · 07-31-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Obzen

If they can tune it with their eyes closed, it should be cheap not expensive.

LS tuning is easy, theres tons of shops around.

here in NJ i dont think so :/

VictorDelDuca · 08-01-2012, 07:00 AM

Not sure exactly where you are, but TuneTime Performance in Toms River charges around $500 I believe and Matt knows his stuff. He's very well known for tuning TBSS's and Camaro's as well as G8's, ect. He did my headers on my TBSS. Had I known about him at the time I got my tune from Vector I would have went with a dyno tune from Matt and I still consider having him do it now to try and squeeze a few more drops out of the truck... unfortunately I blew my trans in the TBSS this weekend so that will be out of the question for a little while. The only reason I haven't had him tune my Camaro is because I have so few miles on it and I have 2nd gear grind and don't want GM to have any excuse to void my power-train warranty.

E.T. · 08-01-2012, 07:43 AM

I think you might be confusing VVT with AFM (active fuel management). When AFM kicks in and out, it sounds like the car is farting. It's awful. VVT is a good thing.

Unless you have a shop nearby that you trust, here's what I would do. Google Jannetty Racing, or PM Ted on here. Get the SCT tuner and Ted will email you a custom tune for your car. He turns off AFM, tunes the tranny, optimizes mods and a bunch of other stuff I know nothing about. Trust me, your car will thank you for it

07-31-2012, 11:38 PM	#1
supasport Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: jersey Posts: 468	How does this sound? i know a local place here in garwood, NJ called "cartech" and this guy specializes really well in camaro's, trans ams, and vettes. He's really famous and has 7 second built cars all over the place. I took a ride over there and i've been interested in getting a tune mainly for these two reasons: 1. Air flow meter or VVT(are they the same thing?) is ANNOYING AS HELL...........i can feel it with my headers and exhaust it sounds like a old fart going. 2. I want my car tuned for better performance. So long story short..he gave me a price of 670$ for a dyno tune. He said he's going to tune the car so my engine light turns off and also delete the VVT. Now i was thinking... if i can just buy me a diablosport tuner for less than 300$ why am i going to spend double and some for a tune i can NOT turn off? What do you guys think i should do? I think 670$ is BIZZARE.... i know they are specialized in this really well but i think its still insane.

07-31-2012, 11:48 PM	#6
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	I dont care how good you are. If you are tuning for most standard bolt ons, there is only so much you can do anyhow. $400 is about the norm for a good dyno. And Jannetty Racing seems to corner the market on the hand held stuff. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

07-31-2012, 11:53 PM	#9
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	There are many shops that can tune the LSx motors in their sleep. I'd shop around. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

07-31-2012, 11:53 PM	#10
2010 SSRS Drives: 3 V8 Camaros Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Ocean State Posts: 111,187 View My Garage	way too much for a tune, wow __________________ Jannetty Racing JRE Street Package

08-01-2012, 07:00 AM	#13
VictorDelDuca Drives: 2012 45th Anniversary Camaro SS 6M Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Old Bridge, NJ Posts: 738 View My Garage	Not sure exactly where you are, but TuneTime Performance in Toms River charges around $500 I believe and Matt knows his stuff. He's very well known for tuning TBSS's and Camaro's as well as G8's, ect. He did my headers on my TBSS. Had I known about him at the time I got my tune from Vector I would have went with a dyno tune from Matt and I still consider having him do it now to try and squeeze a few more drops out of the truck... unfortunately I blew my trans in the TBSS this weekend so that will be out of the question for a little while. The only reason I haven't had him tune my Camaro is because I have so few miles on it and I have 2nd gear grind and don't want GM to have any excuse to void my power-train warranty. __________________

07-31-2012, 11:41 PM	#2
Obzen Pull up Cougar! Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,875	$670 is outrageous, for a tune. I'm one who prefers an in person custom tune either on a dyno, or on the street rather than using the "canned" tunes with the handheld tuners. With that said, I'd NEVER spend $670 on a tune.

08-01-2012, 07:43 AM	#14
E.T. Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 3,251	I think you might be confusing VVT with AFM (active fuel management). When AFM kicks in and out, it sounds like the car is farting. It's awful. VVT is a good thing. Unless you have a shop nearby that you trust, here's what I would do. Google Jannetty Racing, or PM Ted on here. Get the SCT tuner and Ted will email you a custom tune for your car. He turns off AFM, tunes the tranny, optimizes mods and a bunch of other stuff I know nothing about. Trust me, your car will thank you for it __________________