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Old 12-28-2008, 09:18 PM   #1
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6 Speed Manual Tranny

I am in no way a noob when it comes to driving a stick. With that said, the 6th gear will be new to me. Anyone that has some experience with that 6th gear can feel free to share some info. As a very generic rule it was always if your on the highway, or at least cruising at highway speeds(55 and up) you were in 5th gear. How does this change with the extra gear??
As you run thru the gears is it a shorter gap between the gears or is that 6th gear cruising speed a little higher??
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:21 PM   #2
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The gears are shorter.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:26 PM   #3
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6th gear is a double overddrive... basically, its not for anything but cruising... good gas mileage but almost no acceleration... in my six speed cars, I drive 1-3-5 in around town driving getting to 5th gear around 45-50mph... then shift to 6th when I get onto a highway where I'll be at 55mph or better... and I get over 30mpg out of my FRC and used to get right at 30mpg out of my '02 Z28... you dont really need to shift through all of the gears to get to the higher gears, but it is fun... you can drive at 45mph in 6th gear, but there's almost no acceleration potential there.

the gears 1-4 are all still a standard gear pattern, with 4th being a 1:1 gear ratio... 5th is overdriven ~.8:1 and 6th is usually ~.5:1
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:31 PM   #4
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Here are the gear ratios for the two 6-speed options on the 2010:
Aisin Warner AY6 six-speed manual (LS, LT)
Gear ratios (:1):
First: 4.48
Second: 2.58
Third: 1.63
Fourth: 1.19
Fifth: 1.00
Sixth: 0.75
Reverse: 3.67
Final drive ratio: 3.27

TR6060 six-speed manual (SS)
Gear ratios (:1):
First: 3.01
Second: 2.07
Third: 1.43
Fourth: 1.00
Fifth: 0.84
Sixth: 0.57
Reverse: 3.28
Final drive ratio: 3.45

For comparison, here are the ratios for the 5-speed manual that was in the 2000 Camaro:

1st 3.75
2nd 2.19
3rd 1.41
4th 1.00
5th 0.72
Reverse 3.53
Final Drive Ratios 3.23
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:40 PM   #5
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So if I am running 70 on the highway with the cruise set, 6th gear. 1st - 4th are normal in city driving. 5th is the standard overdrive like normal. That about hit it right?

The gear ratios don't help me a whole bunch, but thanks anyway.
Blue collar kinda guy. Learned by feel, so all the numbers just confuse my little brain.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:45 PM   #6
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So if I am running 70 on the highway with the cruise set, 6th gear. 1st - 4th are normal in city driving. 5th is the standard overdrive like normal. That about hit it right?

The gear ratios don't help me a whole bunch, but thanks anyway.
Blue collar kinda guy. Learned by feel, so all the numbers just confuse my little brain.
5th is like the normal 5th gear... 6th is a double overdrive... in my '99 C5 FRC, at 70mph in 6th, I'm running at 1550rpm... and that's with the 3.42 gears out back... expect the 5th gen Camaro be about the same.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:45 PM   #7
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So if I am running 70 on the highway with the cruise set, 6th gear. 1st - 4th are normal in city driving. 5th is the standard overdrive like normal. That about hit it right?

The gear ratios don't help me a whole bunch, but thanks anyway.
Blue collar kinda guy. Learned by feel, so all the numbers just confuse my little brain.
That's about right. I wouldn't expect much 6th gear driving in the city.
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:00 AM   #8
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Like most, I run a 1st, 3rd, 5th, and then 6th pattern. I hardly ever use 2nd or 4th unless I'm dropping it down for quick acceleration.

On the other hand, I use 6th gear as much as possible to lower the rpm's and it results in great gas mileage in my SS. In a regular day, I'll get into a 35mph zone and go into 6th barely applying the gas. It moves JUST FINE. If I need to accelerate quickly, I down shift into 3rd or 4th....either works. But, you can drive forever in 6th at 35mph.

On the hwy, 6th gear works just fine in getting around the dude in the fast lane that just won't move over for you. It'll accelerate without problem...not like it would in 4th, but you would be VERY surprised at how EASILY the 02 SS will get up and go in 6th at 70mph....VROOOM!

You'll see. It's all a matter of preference. I didn't know how to drive a stick all too well when I got my 98 S10. I had some experience in my bro's older truck, but not a whole lot for my truck. I learned. Then, I learned again on a Camaro Z28. It's the basic, general idea of clutch/gas...but you will get the feel of what you can and can't do (ie: put it in 6th at 20mph and floor it to go, but the rpm's drop to 700 and you will QUICKLY realize you need to downshift). You'll see...easy, easy to learn.


Again, I run 6th gear CITY ALL THE TIME. It does not hurt the tranny and keeps the rpms LOW. There's nothing wrong with doing that. Your wallet will love you for it too!
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:05 AM   #9
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I wanna get a stick but I have only driven one once just in the neighborhood... i did ok for my first time, stalled about 3 times lol

I dont know if I should get one, I dont wanna stall it and look stupid
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:11 AM   #10
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my brothers second time he drove a stick was home from the dealer with a new car. he didnt stall. i was suprised. holy crap im tired
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:51 AM   #11
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I wanna get a stick but I have only driven one once just in the neighborhood... i did ok for my first time, stalled about 3 times lol

I dont know if I should get one, I dont wanna stall it and look stupid
I feel a bit of shame for admitting this - I just learned to drive stick yesterday. My wife's cousin took me out in his Toyota pickup. With almost no low end power it was very easy to stall starting from a full stop. Making it worse, the truck could only be started with a screwdriver in the ignition. I had no problem shifting 1-2-3-4 at speed, but I did stall starting from stop a few times and only got a few smooth starts in. The rest were jerky. Then my wife's uncle let me take out his BMW 325. Man that thing was easy to work with. Didn't stall it once, every take off was fairly smooth. The shifter was notchy, but otherwise it was great. My wife's cousin said the Camaro with all its torque would be perfect for me. So I can drive stick now, but I'm not very good yet. I have to find something I can practice often with.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:20 AM   #12
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I wanna get a stick but I have only driven one once just in the neighborhood... i did ok for my first time, stalled about 3 times lol

I dont know if I should get one, I dont wanna stall it and look stupid
Get a stick! You might not know how to drive it, but YOU WILL LEARN! Do NOT worry about looking stupid. It happens. Shoot...I've stalled mine out before when not paying attention...I was at a stop light, came to a stop, thought I took it out of gear, and quickly let out the clutch while holding the brake....BAM!!! Car lurched forward and stopped. No biggie...it happens.

Go practice if you want before taking delivery by driving someone else's stick shift vehicle. that'll help.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:28 AM   #13
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Watch this video.. At 1min 60 seconds hehehe.. that's how you drive a manual.
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:36 AM   #14
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Shoot...I've stalled mine out before when not paying attention...I was at a stop light, came to a stop, thought I took it out of gear, and quickly let out the clutch while holding the brake....BAM!!! Car lurched forward and stopped. No biggie...it happens.
I do this kind of crap all the time and I've been driving clutches since I had to do farm chores when I was 13 years old (the age I was allowed to drive the tractor). It happens, the moment someone makes fun of you is the moment karma kicks in and they stall out at the next intersection!
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