07-20-2009, 02:33 PM | #1 |
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Detroit Speed vs. Pedders
I have been reading everything I can find online about after market suspensions. I am interested in a daily driver that handles very well without sacrificing a lot of ride quality. I have prior experience working with Jeep suspensions, but this is my first sports car.
I am seriously considering either Detroit Speed or a Pedder's set up. I spoke with DSE today and they were very helpful. Their current package $975 will include 4 coils (1.5 inch lower ride height) and front and rear sway bars. The end links have been dropped because they determined the factory end links allowed for a lot of rotation, which was necessary for proper suspension travel. I asked if they intended to offer more parts but they have determined that to alter the suspension more would be a detriment to ride quality. I have been following Pedder's threads here. I have not been able to reach anyone at their company through email or phone. I did speak with Ron at vengeance racing, very nice guy to work with. Pedder's offers a lot more components. They really seem to be performance oriented. Has any member had experience with these companies? How would you rate these suspension packages? I know every setup has trade offs. Is the pedders setup more of a track style suspension? Like I said no personal experience with either. I would like to hear an honest critique from people who have. Thanks for taking the time. |
07-20-2009, 02:47 PM | #2 |
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Hey JLP,
I hear what your saying. I don't know anyone else doing any suspension products. I am looking for just a lowering kit to get the car down and take out the 2 to 3 inches between the tires and the upper wheel wells. |
07-20-2009, 03:11 PM | #3 |
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Simper Fi I can foward the emails I have exchanged with a pedders guy in CA, I'm hanging out in the sandbox so no experince yet but I can send you what I got
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07-20-2009, 03:17 PM | #4 |
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Glad I could be of some help. I dont have any experience with Detroit Speed, but if you decide to go with Pedders I would be more than happy to help you out!!!!
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07-20-2009, 04:32 PM | #5 |
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I know Eibach is already bringing out a line of products and Hotchkis as well. They have threads here, 5thgen.org, and on you tube. I focused on these 2 companies because they seem more like specialists. I know, when it comes to suspension, one size doesn't fit all.
Detroit Speed Inc. has a very strong reputation among Camaro fans. They are actually former GM suspension engineers who left to start their own company. I know pedders is very big down under and has a long history with Holden. Ron, you will be getting my business for several other mods. Is your camaro still in QC? gettingaMaro! pm coming your way. |
07-20-2009, 05:56 PM | #6 |
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i have a Xa kit ordered for my camaro though pedders. the kit is amazing. nothing outthere compares to it now. thier setup is a coilover andjustable and dampening system. you can lower the car about 3" and change the dampening and still get an stock cushiony feel. now it isnt 900 something dollars like the other kit. but it is a performance kit. not just for looks. thats why i went with them. even though the wait is killing me. its gonna be worth it.
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07-20-2009, 06:03 PM | #7 |
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I called Mike at DMS - Pedders and I can tell you he not only picked up the phone everytime but spoke to me over an hour the phone once.
They are INSANE Knowledgeable and I feel 100% trust with this company. Not many companies can say they have over 4000 hours testing there products. You will get what you pay for with them... This is why I have a set coming once they are done. EDIT This car was done with by DES and personally think it is awesome Last edited by Indpowr; 07-20-2009 at 06:59 PM. |
07-20-2009, 06:15 PM | #8 |
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So Detroit Speed put Pedders on this car?
http://www.detroitspeed.com/projectp...amaro-main.htm
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07-20-2009, 06:18 PM | #9 |
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pedders doesnt make those sway bars they installed on that, do they? the exhaust looks janky on that.
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07-20-2009, 06:50 PM | #11 |
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That is true Indpower. I have seen many good posts from you, but that camaro belongs to Stacey, one of the owners of Detroit Speed. I think it was listed on a thread that started off about DSE and became suspension discussion.
I know Pedders has a long history. I have spent a few months in Australia so I have seen their market there. Australia loves rear wheel drive vehicles. I wasn't doubting the company. I was hoping someone had actually driven their setup. Ron at vengeance racing had a lot of experience with their G8 setup. I have seen people making passing remarks about their G8s here. I was hoping they would comment on likes or dislikes. Things they would do differently, did everything live up to expectation, any unforseen issues, etc. |
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07-20-2009, 07:19 PM | #13 |
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I am having a hard time figuring out from pedder's website the exact details of their individual packages. I see the track extreme, which is their full up package. I'm not sure if I need that level of suspension. I see they have a bushing only kit and they list street, sport and track coils. Are these separate coils or different coilovers?
The pedders can be done in stages right? By going with the harder bushings, how does their system compensate for vibration and road noise? I don't want a lot of rattling in a street driven vehicle. |
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