07-25-2013, 06:57 AM | #29 |
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Bull,
Take it from me, while the 67/66's might live for a while and be happy at moderately high boost levels on a 427, they won't last very long.... They seem to hold up to some of the short runs in drag racing but via the longer hotter runs of land speed racing I have determined at high boost levels they are too small... I've been through several of them, including blowing two of them up in the same weekend on two different Mile passes. Both of them broke in the center section.... and yes, they were CEA billet wheels with ball bearing upgrades... We were overspinning the hell out of them to make 25 lbs of boost.... Made one dyno pass at 30 psi.... in addition to the Mile passes at 25... The second turbo of the weekend didn't make it a full pass before it grenaded. I will saythey lasted for well over a year of runs and street driving when limited to only 18 lbs of boost... beyond that, you're on borrowed time... We are going back together with 76/75 CEA turbos with an "H" cover and T4 outlets. We've been told point blank, they will handle the cubes and boost.... The difference is we will be notching the frame to make them fit in the same location, next to the bell housing... and doing a HUGE intercooler... The efficiency range for these is going to be much better, so the IAT's wont be so ridiculous...
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07-25-2013, 08:07 AM | #30 |
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That is just PTE turbos, nothing to do with size IMO.
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07-25-2013, 06:37 PM | #34 |
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Too much drama with turbos. I think i may just stick with the simple centri. Some guys say the turbos are too big, some say too small. Some say Precision Turbo sucks, some say they dont. I know my PC is beastly and im having damn fun and i know the F1c or F1x will meet my goals.
Im not gonna sleep for a few days This was the hardest decision i have had to make. Stick with what you know works (this has never let me down) Sorry to sound like a whiny biotch. I think this motor will last forever at 14psi from the dinky D1SC. That is bliss!
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I'm on your side (just in case you can't read between the lines). Constantly working on stuff has lost its luster to me. I kinda like to drive the hell out of the thing and leave the big money/ off the reservation stuff to someone else. Attaboys to the guys that need to have something just a little different, or need to get that next little (or bunch) of hp |
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07-25-2013, 09:17 PM | #36 |
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Precision make good power. I just wouldn't rank them high in reliability. Stick with Borg Warner, Garret, or an OEM turbo place for long lasting turbos.
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Im not gonn push these PTE units too hard so i will probably go with them. Plus my shop is a distributor for PTE and Tial. They are custom fabbing my setup for less than a swap to a procharger F1. If i grenade a turbo, what are they, 1200 bucks or so. Lots of good reviews over on LS1Tech.com.
My shop is setting up a CTS-V with a similar custom setup and i plan to drive down to Ft Worth to get a look. Everything is coated and its supposed to be a hell of a good system.
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So first you say this, then you decide to go with a pieced together 'kit'? enjoy
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because I like reading this stuff.
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Running IPS kit and very happy with it. Really like the Garrett GT3794 turbo's.
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Or Even the new 6466CEA ? I'm considering bumping my old YSi in favour of twins. It's just the choice of turbo's is so vast, and peoples opinions of reliable and junk seem to vary across many units. Ive used Precisions BB units on a few 4 cyl cars to as much as 40psi boost and never once had a problem. But reading peoples reports still makes me cautious, and the likes of a DBB 6466CEA isnt cheap, and is the unit I'd be aiming for But I also do 1km and mile runs in my car, and after SSE 42SS's post....I have concerns again. I dont think Ive read any bad reports about the BW units though, other than they are physically huge. But how do they spool ? Manual trans car circa 382ci and I'd be liking to hit full boost by ideally 4000rpm, at worst 4500rpm and aiming for 1k+ Would be using LS3 logs as per some of these kits in this thread although DIY. Cost is a factor. I can get the Precision at sensible prices from a local dealer. But BW would be much cheaper either way. Although arent the BW units also physically very big ? Also, what scavenge pump do these kits use ? |
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