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GTKILLER · 06-27-2014, 10:31 PM

I have 2010 camaro LS3 that's in shop now getting an aggressive cam,longtube headers put on.I already have BER ported intake and throttle body installed. My question is I'm going to be close to 500rwhp or over and I'm adding 100NX shot. Do you hardcore nitrous guys recomend ZL1 drop in fuel pump or KenneBell Boost A Pump to take care of my fuel needs.

ttshovel · 06-28-2014, 08:45 AM

Neither stock fuel system for 100 shot and 1 step colder plugs. Anything over id get an independent fuel system

GTKILLER · 06-28-2014, 08:53 AM

TTshovel so the stock fuel system can handle 600 rwhp range and if I go over that I need independent fuel system .

striker1703 · 06-28-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GTKILLER

I have 2010 camaro LS3 that's in shop now getting an aggressive cam,longtube headers put on.I already have BER ported intake and throttle body installed. My question is I'm going to be close to 500rwhp or over and I'm adding 100NX shot. Do you hardcore nitrous guys recomend ZL1 drop in fuel pump or KenneBell Boost A Pump to take care of my fuel needs.

When I ran 150 shot , cam , full bolt on a M6 car I ran with the stock fuel system with 1 step colder plugs, safe tune, and a couple of gallons of race fuel each time I sprayed. It never gave me any problems or fuel issues.

jessrayo · 06-28-2014, 04:31 PM

You really don't want to run out of fuel when using nitrous. I would consider the zl1 pump...as insurance.

GTKILLER · 07-02-2014, 06:15 PM

I went with NX brand standalone fuel system I'm married to this Nitrous setup so I might as well do it right first time

Gen5SS · 07-02-2014, 11:33 PM

I went with Nitrous Outlets stand alone fuel cell. You wont need injectors, fuel pump or a boost a pump because the extra fuel is provided from a separate system that only activates when you hit the nitrous which I fill with c-16 race fuel but you could fill it with 91 just to add the extra fuel. The fuel and nitrous are introduced through a plate sandwiched between the throttle body and the intake manifold. I went with br7-ef plugs which is 2 steps colder.

GTKILLER · 07-03-2014, 12:32 AM

Gen5SS what shot are you spraying because I have the same nitrous setup except I'm using the NX brand stand alone system

Gen5SS · 07-04-2014, 12:43 AM

I'm spraying a 150 shot, I think the last time we dyno'd it it put down 625rwhp 735 rwtq on a stock bottom, dual springs and aftermarket pushrods and a Sam Cam. I think somewhere in the upper 500's maybe low 600's N/A you'll need to start looking at injectors and a pump. But with the stand alone and I may be wrong here but I think the stand alone has a walbro 255 in it. The factory injectors and factory fuel pump only need to keep up with the N/A hp, the fuel added when on the unit comes from the stand alone by changing the fuel jets on the nitrous plate to get your AFR right. Hope that helps, if not feel free to call me at Sullivan Performance 702-476-2750

WHAMMO · 07-04-2014, 04:32 PM

I would have add a ZL1 pump..cheaper and you dont need injectors with a wet shot.

Is it a dry kit or wet?

Anyway, no fuel=BOOM. I would get a fuel pressure safety switch(FPSS) since youre not sure if youll have enough fuel, unless going with a stand alone. Even then, its cheap insurance (50$).

06-27-2014, 10:31 PM	#1
GTKILLER Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 251 View My Garage	Nitrous guys need some advise I have 2010 camaro LS3 that's in shop now getting an aggressive cam,longtube headers put on.I already have BER ported intake and throttle body installed. My question is I'm going to be close to 500rwhp or over and I'm adding 100NX shot. Do you hardcore nitrous guys recomend ZL1 drop in fuel pump or KenneBell Boost A Pump to take care of my fuel needs. __________________ Go Hard or Go Home

06-28-2014, 08:53 AM	#3
GTKILLER Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 251 View My Garage	TTshovel so the stock fuel system can handle 600 rwhp range and if I go over that I need independent fuel system . __________________ Go Hard or Go Home

06-28-2014, 04:31 PM	#5
jessrayo Speed Freak Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 2,637 View My Garage	You really don't want to run out of fuel when using nitrous. I would consider the zl1 pump...as insurance. __________________ 2016 SS -AGP twin Borg Warner 7163 EFR's, LT4 mechanical pump, LT4 injectors, Walbro 255 low side, Castrol SRF. 734whp/759 tq 2013 ZL1 -ADM - 427 LSX 6 bolt, O-ringed block built by LME. Twin PT6466 turbos. RPM custom manual trans, RPS Quad carbon clutch, 9" Hendrix rear diff & axles. ADM/squash fuel system, Ron Davis radiator, Spal fans, AGP air to air, turbo plumbing. LPE oil cooler, rear bushing upgrade, roll bar...etc. rwhp 1400+... 212.5mph, best Texas mile to date.

07-02-2014, 06:15 PM	#6
GTKILLER Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 251 View My Garage	I went with NX brand standalone fuel system I'm married to this Nitrous setup so I might as well do it right first time __________________ Go Hard or Go Home

07-02-2014, 11:33 PM	#7
Gen5SS Drives: 2010 SS/RS 6 Spd Manual IOM Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North Las Vegas Posts: 153	I went with Nitrous Outlets stand alone fuel cell. You wont need injectors, fuel pump or a boost a pump because the extra fuel is provided from a separate system that only activates when you hit the nitrous which I fill with c-16 race fuel but you could fill it with 91 just to add the extra fuel. The fuel and nitrous are introduced through a plate sandwiched between the throttle body and the intake manifold. I went with br7-ef plugs which is 2 steps colder. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS, 417 stroker, 4.0 Callies crank and rods, JRE pistons w/hellfire nitrous top rings, Kooks 1 7/8 LT, Kooks 3" Exhaust, CAI Intake and Scoop, Cam SullivanGM W/ Hardened PR, Stock Heads. Dual Springs, Mcleod RXT Clutch, Hurst LL W/ Cruise Momentary, GM 3.91 gears, Nitrous Outlet direct port 200 shot, Dedicated Fuel Cell(C16), LNC2000 and NOS Mini controller, BMR suspension w/Bushings, Pfadt Drop, Pfadt Diff Bushings, 1400hp DSS Axles, DSS driveshaft, Solid Engine Mounts, Razzi Body Kit, Speedhut Gauges,T-REX Phantom Grills (Black) 533RWHP/500RWTQ N/A, 724RWHP/816RWTQ 200 Shot

06-28-2014, 08:45 AM	#2
ttshovel Drives: 12 camaro ss, 72 chevelle, 91camaro Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: findlay,oh Posts: 2,069	Neither stock fuel system for 100 shot and 1 step colder plugs. Anything over id get an independent fuel system

07-03-2014, 12:32 AM	#8
GTKILLER Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 251 View My Garage	Gen5SS what shot are you spraying because I have the same nitrous setup except I'm using the NX brand stand alone system __________________ Go Hard or Go Home

07-04-2014, 12:43 AM	#9
Gen5SS Drives: 2010 SS/RS 6 Spd Manual IOM Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North Las Vegas Posts: 153	I'm spraying a 150 shot, I think the last time we dyno'd it it put down 625rwhp 735 rwtq on a stock bottom, dual springs and aftermarket pushrods and a Sam Cam. I think somewhere in the upper 500's maybe low 600's N/A you'll need to start looking at injectors and a pump. But with the stand alone and I may be wrong here but I think the stand alone has a walbro 255 in it. The factory injectors and factory fuel pump only need to keep up with the N/A hp, the fuel added when on the unit comes from the stand alone by changing the fuel jets on the nitrous plate to get your AFR right. Hope that helps, if not feel free to call me at Sullivan Performance 702-476-2750 __________________ 2010 2SS/RS, 417 stroker, 4.0 Callies crank and rods, JRE pistons w/hellfire nitrous top rings, Kooks 1 7/8 LT, Kooks 3" Exhaust, CAI Intake and Scoop, Cam SullivanGM W/ Hardened PR, Stock Heads. Dual Springs, Mcleod RXT Clutch, Hurst LL W/ Cruise Momentary, GM 3.91 gears, Nitrous Outlet direct port 200 shot, Dedicated Fuel Cell(C16), LNC2000 and NOS Mini controller, BMR suspension w/Bushings, Pfadt Drop, Pfadt Diff Bushings, 1400hp DSS Axles, DSS driveshaft, Solid Engine Mounts, Razzi Body Kit, Speedhut Gauges,T-REX Phantom Grills (Black) 533RWHP/500RWTQ N/A, 724RWHP/816RWTQ 200 Shot

07-04-2014, 04:32 PM	#10
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,640	I would have add a ZL1 pump..cheaper and you dont need injectors with a wet shot. Is it a dry kit or wet? Anyway, no fuel=BOOM. I would get a fuel pressure safety switch(FPSS) since youre not sure if youll have enough fuel, unless going with a stand alone. Even then, its cheap insurance (50$). __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me.