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Would be nice if they did, my point is they do tend to follow their past product planning and dev patterns, vs not follow it. I also think they don't want a sports car other than the Corvette taking the spotlight now, with launch still fresh and Z06 and GS coming soon. Cadillac is different IMO. |
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02-03-2021, 03:39 PM | #30 | |
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02-03-2021, 04:19 PM | #31 | |
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This new caddy was developed to take on the charger , gave it a six speed to be different. The Camaro goes against the Challenger. It’s going to get the big motor also. |
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02-03-2021, 06:45 PM | #32 | |
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No kids (no plans to have any) and not married. Girlfriend actually encouraged me to get the Camaro and Shelby. She's definitely not your average girl. I need to take better pics of all three together this year (while I have them all). Been saying that for the last two years. Thinking about selling two of them if the C8 Z06 peaks my interest.
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02-04-2021, 01:39 AM | #34 |
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Yeah, they definitely did for the ZR1. Though at 110k+ or so and under 2,000 built it wasn't in great numbers, as one would expect at that price. GM isn't in the horsepower wars game that Dodge likes to play. GM's game is 'we'll just whip you at the track with a better chassis and useable amounts of power.'
Something else I thought of, remember when the LSA debuted in the CTS-V? It then moved into the ZL1 Camaro with more power than the Caddy... |
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02-04-2021, 09:18 AM | #36 | |
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02-04-2021, 06:48 PM | #37 | ||
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Dodge has not only thrown horsepower at their cars, they have groomed the public to fall in love with horsepower. Weather it's usable horsepower or horsepower that makes you go sideways at every turn (which they often feature in their commercials). Case in point, if I wasn't a car guy and part of these forums I would have never known that the 2018 ZL1 1LE had the 7th fastest lap time at the Nürburgring in 2018, beating cars like McLaren and Ferrari. GM did a half ass job launching that car, Dodge would have been screaming that from the rooftops for 12 months. I made up my mind to buy a Hellcat after i saw the "Predators" commercial they did with the Phil Collins song "in the air". Quote:
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02-04-2021, 11:42 PM | #38 | |
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Yes, absolutely agree. This goes back to many generations of Camaro. When did you ever see a fourth generation Camaro advertisement? I can't tell you...because I don't think that ever happened. Transformers launched the Gen 5 Camaro (when the movie was out in 2007, cars in 2009) and GM just rode that wave until the end of the Gen 5 platform. Dodge was getting smoked (so was Ford, remember the Mustang had 305 HP in 2009!). They both said 'no more' and just starting go for it. I get it about lap times....no body cares that the ZL1 1LE (except maybe us) can run a low 7 minute time...most people have never even heard of the Ring, let alone understand what a beast of a track it is. I remember when I had my C7 Z06 and someone said 'wow that Audi R8 is faster than your Corvette...' sadly the R8 was not...but nobody knew that except me! Speaking of Super Bowl teams...did you see the GM Will Ferrell commercial about EVs? Makes me sad :( |
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02-05-2021, 11:06 PM | #39 |
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For a used car that you have no idea what was done to it or how it was treated? No thanks. I’ll pay full price for piece of mind. Everyone is different.
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02-06-2021, 04:37 PM | #40 | |
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Saw a 20 raptor with 20k on it for 72k today lol. You can get a new one for that or less |
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02-07-2021, 12:03 AM | #41 | |
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02-07-2021, 05:19 PM | #42 |
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Caddy V doesn’t compete with Dodge. Caddy V competes with M, AMG and RS.
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