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OUTATIME · 06-13-2014, 10:17 AM

There have been plenty of solutions to make it harder to turn a key:

I had a car (don't remember which one) which required you to push the key into the ignition in order to turn it anywhere. It was spring-loaded and as soon as you let go it would lock into place in whichever position you chose. This made it harder to turn without some force, especially if your knee hit it.

I also had a 1989 Camry which required you to actually press a button with one finger in order to turn the key and pull it out of the ignition. Not saying that this should be our solution, but there are many ways to overcome this problem without pissing off all of your customers.

GM, you are showing us that you're lazy and scared of engineering a better solution than what you've given us.

OUTATIME · 06-13-2014, 10:17 AM

Blahhh double post. Didn't ask for that!

2010Camaro1ss · 06-13-2014, 10:18 AM

I will pass on this recall.

SSteven · 06-13-2014, 10:18 AM

It depends on if they put the chip in the key or the fob itself in the recall offering. Currently, the chip is inside the FOB itself rather than the inside the key.

I have an alarm on mine, so I have to carry around 2 FOBs if I want the full alarm functionality (1 mile range). If they put the chip in the key, I can leave the GM FOB at home and only need to carry my viper FOB.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 06-13-2014, 10:19 AM

This reminds me of back in the day of 2008+2009 when I demanded push button start for the Camaro. Guess they should have listened...

fgg60 · 06-13-2014, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR.Sarge

Yeah NOT happening! Unless it's changing to a Push-to-Start system, I will keep my flip key. That's a downgrade, so not happening.

+1 !!

RB43TD · 06-13-2014, 10:21 AM

No thank you. I'll be keeping my fob. Been driving it this way for four years and hasn't happened yet.

ENV US · 06-13-2014, 10:21 AM

I am not interested in doing this unless they change it to a push button start system. I don't need a fob with a separate key in my pocket. I think we should all patition GM to come up with a better (more contemporary) fix. Maybe we should all send an email to Fbodfather to come up with a better fix.

Retro69 · 06-13-2014, 10:22 AM

No thanks Chevrolet. You guys need to get a corporate back bone and stop cow towing.

z28man2 · 06-13-2014, 10:22 AM

Just an FYI to Everyone

Date: June 12, 2014

Subject: Stop Delivery Order

GM Reference Number 14294

Models: 2010-2014 Chevrolet Camaro

To: All Chevrolet Dealers

Attention: Dealer, Dealer Principal, General Manager, General Sales, Manager, New Vehicle Sales Manager, Used Vehicle Sales, Manager, Parts and Service Director and Service Manager

STOP DELIVERY ORDER

Effective immediately, stop the delivery of all 2010-2014 model year Chevrolet Camaro vehicles currently in transit to dealers as well as those already in new and used vehicle inventory for an ignition key issue. According to GM records, the total number of involved U.S. vehicles currently in new vehicle inventory is 34,233.

All 2010-2014 model year Chevrolet Camaro vehicles that are in dealer inventory (new and used) must be held and not delivered to customers, dealer traded, or used for demonstration purposes until further instructions are received.

Instructions for releasing the involved vehicles from this stop delivery will be provided in the near future.

Please do not call GM Technical Assistance.

END OF MESSAGE

GM CUSTOMER CARE AND AFTERSALES

tjk_art · 06-13-2014, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toti

“Discovering and acting on this issue quickly is an example of the new norm for product safety at GM,” said Jeff Boyer, vice president of GM Global Safety.

5 years later...

good looking out GM

abaucom21 · 06-13-2014, 10:22 AM

I intend to keep my switchblade key fob. The weight is going to be the same for a separate key and hanging fob as is the switchblade key fob. My knee doesn't get close to fob and I don't attach any other keys on the fob key ring. I keep home keys on a separate ring, office keys on a separate ring. Fear is if I loose one set of keys I don't loose all my keys.

What I don't understand is the switchblade key fob has become common in the auto industry, why only Camaro's? If anything I would think a fob hanging from a separate key would be easier to bump or move around when driving (I have a separate hanging fob and key for my 1998 Riviera and my knee never hits the hanging fob when driving). Think there is more to this recall then released to the press as it is going to be very expensive for GM to change out keys and fobs for 511,528 Camaro's. Seriously, why can't they design an ignition switch that locks the key into place when you turn the key to start the car?

My guess would be if you take your auto in for service, they can not change anything without the owners permission. The auto belongs to you, not GM. However, in the future if you plan on selling your Camaro, most likely the recall issue will have to be fixed. I could be wrong, if in fact this is a safety issue, GM would be required to replace the switchblade key fob even ten years from now with no charge to the 'original owner'. However, if you receive the recall notice, don't get it fixed, doubt you can later claim damages.

*TAG UR IT* · 06-13-2014, 10:22 AM

And again....from the beginning...what did I say???

PUSH BUTTON START

Sounds like a much better idea NOW doesnt it, GM!!!

SMH!

nferno · 06-13-2014, 10:22 AM

No Sir, Don't like it. I will keep mine the way it is.

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06-13-2014, 10:18 AM	#116
SSteven Drives: 2013 ZL1 Black Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 411	I'll switch if the chip is in the key rather than the FOB. It depends on if they put the chip in the key or the fob itself in the recall offering. Currently, the chip is inside the FOB itself rather than the inside the key. I have an alarm on mine, so I have to carry around 2 FOBs if I want the full alarm functionality (1 mile range). If they put the chip in the key, I can leave the GM FOB at home and only need to carry my viper FOB. __________________ 2013 ZL1 (purchased 3/2017 with 5k miles) - Black/Auto/Nav/Sunroof/Rotofab CAI/RDP tuned/1 7/8" LT Speed Engineering Headers w/TSP HF Cats/NPP with 3-way control switch/HD-Link Previous Camaro (sold 11/2015): 2012 2SS - Auto/RS/Black/Sunroof/MyLink Nav/SP 1 7/8" LT Headers w/HF Cats/Hybrid SW Retro Catback w/Borla Pro XS Mufflers/ADM Dyno Tune/C.A.I. CAI/Vmax Spiral Ported Throttle Body/APEX Catch Can/275x4 Squared Wheel Setup/Custom Fit Full Size Spare/Ceramic Tint Replaced with 2013 Black Dodge Charger SRT8

06-13-2014, 10:19 AM	#117
Camaro_Corvette 36.58625, -121.7568 Drives: Team 1LE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 23,709 View My Garage	This reminds me of back in the day of 2008+2009 when I demanded push button start for the Camaro. Guess they should have listened... __________________ I am seriously never serious vv V vv Next order of business

06-13-2014, 10:21 AM	#119
RB43TD Me Likey My Camaro Drives: 2010 Victory Red 1LT/RS Camaro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 489 View My Garage	No thank you. I'll be keeping my fob. Been driving it this way for four years and hasn't happened yet. __________________ When I was a young boy, I was certain that the world was good or bad....black or white. As time passed I grew up and learned there was only grey.

06-13-2014, 10:22 AM	#121
Retro69 Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Morgan, UT Posts: 1,359	No thanks Chevrolet. You guys need to get a corporate back bone and stop cow towing. __________________

06-13-2014, 10:17 AM	#113
OUTATIME Drives: 2010 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 633	There have been plenty of solutions to make it harder to turn a key: I had a car (don't remember which one) which required you to push the key into the ignition in order to turn it anywhere. It was spring-loaded and as soon as you let go it would lock into place in whichever position you chose. This made it harder to turn without some force, especially if your knee hit it. I also had a 1989 Camry which required you to actually press a button with one finger in order to turn the key and pull it out of the ignition. Not saying that this should be our solution, but there are many ways to overcome this problem without pissing off all of your customers. GM, you are showing us that you're lazy and scared of engineering a better solution than what you've given us.

06-13-2014, 10:17 AM	#114
OUTATIME Drives: 2010 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 633	Blahhh double post. Didn't ask for that!

06-13-2014, 10:18 AM	#115
2010Camaro1ss Drives: 2014 Camaro 2ss 1LE Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Falcon, CO Posts: 142	I will pass on this recall.

06-13-2014, 10:21 AM	#120
ENV US Drives: 2011 Synergy Green RS, 1999 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 325	I am not interested in doing this unless they change it to a push button start system. I don't need a fob with a separate key in my pocket. I think we should all patition GM to come up with a better (more contemporary) fix. Maybe we should all send an email to Fbodfather to come up with a better fix.

06-13-2014, 10:22 AM	#122
z28man2 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Coupe IOM Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: PA Posts: 193	GM Ignition Recall Just an FYI to Everyone Date: June 12, 2014 Subject: Stop Delivery Order GM Reference Number 14294 Models: 2010-2014 Chevrolet Camaro To: All Chevrolet Dealers Attention: Dealer, Dealer Principal, General Manager, General Sales, Manager, New Vehicle Sales Manager, Used Vehicle Sales, Manager, Parts and Service Director and Service Manager STOP DELIVERY ORDER Effective immediately, stop the delivery of all 2010-2014 model year Chevrolet Camaro vehicles currently in transit to dealers as well as those already in new and used vehicle inventory for an ignition key issue. According to GM records, the total number of involved U.S. vehicles currently in new vehicle inventory is 34,233. All 2010-2014 model year Chevrolet Camaro vehicles that are in dealer inventory (new and used) must be held and not delivered to customers, dealer traded, or used for demonstration purposes until further instructions are received. Instructions for releasing the involved vehicles from this stop delivery will be provided in the near future. Please do not call GM Technical Assistance. END OF MESSAGE GM CUSTOMER CARE AND AFTERSALES __________________ 2013 Camaro ZL-1 #3553, IOM, Roto-Fab Intake, Vmax Ported TB, Apex Catch Can

06-13-2014, 10:22 AM	#124
abaucom21 Drives: 2011 2LT White, 1966 TBird conv. Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 682	I intend to keep my switchblade key fob. The weight is going to be the same for a separate key and hanging fob as is the switchblade key fob. My knee doesn't get close to fob and I don't attach any other keys on the fob key ring. I keep home keys on a separate ring, office keys on a separate ring. Fear is if I loose one set of keys I don't loose all my keys. What I don't understand is the switchblade key fob has become common in the auto industry, why only Camaro's? If anything I would think a fob hanging from a separate key would be easier to bump or move around when driving (I have a separate hanging fob and key for my 1998 Riviera and my knee never hits the hanging fob when driving). Think there is more to this recall then released to the press as it is going to be very expensive for GM to change out keys and fobs for 511,528 Camaro's. Seriously, why can't they design an ignition switch that locks the key into place when you turn the key to start the car? My guess would be if you take your auto in for service, they can not change anything without the owners permission. The auto belongs to you, not GM. However, in the future if you plan on selling your Camaro, most likely the recall issue will have to be fixed. I could be wrong, if in fact this is a safety issue, GM would be required to replace the switchblade key fob even ten years from now with no charge to the 'original owner'. However, if you receive the recall notice, don't get it fixed, doubt you can later claim damages.

06-13-2014, 10:22 AM	#125
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	And again....from the beginning...what did I say??? PUSH BUTTON START Sounds like a much better idea NOW doesnt it, GM!!! SMH!

06-13-2014, 10:22 AM	#126
nferno nferno SSLS3 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS IOM Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SE MAss Posts: 136	No Sir, Don't like it. I will keep mine the way it is. __________________ .