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Old 04-25-2012, 12:05 PM   #1
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Camaro vs Mustang Difference...

The main difference between our Camaros and the Mustangs... we don't need to send ours to Shelby to make them fast. :-)
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:13 PM   #2
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Now thats funny!
The only thing I don't like about GM right now is they are using our tax dollars(Bail out money) to move production of the Volt and some Cadillacs' to China and other countries...What a disappointment!
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:29 PM   #3
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Actually the Shelbys are built on the same assembly line as all the other Mustangs in Flatrock Michigan. So if you are going to compare 2013 Shelby Mustang will have OVER 600 Horse Power. Stock. Camaro ZL1, 550 Horse Power. Mustangs a little lighter also. Who would win? MUSTANG! If you have to tear someone else down to build yourself up you know your already inferior.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:33 PM   #4
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Actually the Shelbys are built on the same assembly line as all the other Mustangs in Flatrock Michigan. So if you are going to compare 2013 Shelby Mustang will have OVER 600 Horse Power. Stock. Camaro ZL1, 550 Horse Power. Mustangs a little lighter also. Who would win? MUSTANG! If you have to tear someone else down to build yourself up you know your already inferior.
Yeah Shelby is just the name now. Everything is made on the assembly line... so yeah OP, I think you might want to reconsider lol.

However many hp the gt500 has though, it still has huge issues putting it down, which is not the case with the ZL1.

However, when the Gt500 comes out with independent suspension and being able to put some of the 650 hp down... let's just say that the ZL1 will have some catching up to do.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:37 PM   #5
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OP felt like stirring up some crap today I guess? FYI a stock 5.0 will beat a stock SS in the 1/4 so....
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:38 PM   #6
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Now thats funny!
The only thing I don't like about GM right now is they are using our tax dollars(Bail out money) to move production of the Volt and some Cadillacs' to China and other countries...What a disappointment!
Wrong

GM is putting production capacity in China for domestic production, i.e. for China, they are not moving production of these cars destined for North American production to China.

Proof?

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...-china-110244/
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:41 PM   #7
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Actually the Shelbys are built on the same assembly line as all the other Mustangs in Flatrock Michigan. So if you are going to compare 2013 Shelby Mustang will have OVER 600 Horse Power. Stock. Camaro ZL1, 550 Horse Power. Mustangs a little lighter also. Who would win? MUSTANG! If you have to tear someone else down to build yourself up you know your already inferior.
I want to hear about the '13 GT500's suspension. They're really gonna have to pull something amazing out of their "posterior-region" in order to compete with the ZL1 at the track. I love the competition that's being rebuilt between the two cars, all it does is force progress if they want to keep competing with each other, and thus almost guarantees a better car from both sides!
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:42 PM   #8
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Actually the Shelbys are built on the same assembly line as all the other Mustangs in Flatrock Michigan. So if you are going to compare 2013 Shelby Mustang will have OVER 600 Horse Power. Stock. Camaro ZL1, 550 Horse Power. Mustangs a little lighter also. Who would win? MUSTANG! If you have to tear someone else down to build yourself up you know your already inferior.
The factory rated ZL1 is 580 HP, not 550. And, from early dyno testing, it looks like these numbers are still pretty conservative and that in reality its more like 600 crank HP.

I would agree with your comment but you missed some facts as well so we all need to settle down a bit.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:43 PM   #9
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Wrong

GM is putting production capacity in China for domestic production, i.e. for China, they are not moving production of these cars destined for North American production to China.

Proof?

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...-china-110244/
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:44 PM   #10
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Main difference between the two, our camaros just look better!!!

Stangs do not have that visual shock appeal in my opinion.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:45 PM   #11
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Yeah Shelby is just the name now. Everything is made on the assembly line... so yeah OP, I think you might want to reconsider lol.

However many hp the gt500 has though, it still has huge issues putting it down, which is not the case with the ZL1.

However, when the Gt500 comes out with independent suspension and being able to put some of the 650 hp down... let's just say that the ZL1 will have some catching up to do.
Thats funny, you've seen this yourself on the 13 Shelby. Since they aren't actually out yet. I'm sure we haven't even had one in Florida yet. Nor do I believe we ran any by you to get your opinion on them.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:47 PM   #12
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Main difference between the two, our camaros just look better!!!

Stangs do not have that visual shock appeal in my opinion.
The Shelby is awesome looking! But the Camaro is the best looking car ever in my opinion. Which is why I bought one.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:50 PM   #13
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I have a 2011 SS Convertible and I have a 2011 GT 5.0 California Special Convertible. I don't care which is better. I don't want a Challenger however.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:54 PM   #14
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Web makes everyone an expert
Not necessarily the web, though that is part of it. A lot has to do with television pundits with an axe to grind. Hence why Bob Lutz has been on TV alot defending the Volt. I think that internally, GM believes that the reason the Volt missed it's US sales targets in the first year was due to a certain media outlet that kept on running negative stories 24 hours a day.
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