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Rallysport · 08-28-2008, 09:23 PM

Don't like the weight? Blame your friendly federal gubment and their boatload of REGULATIONS. In today's GM cars, you could practically drive off a cliff and survive with all of the built-in safety equipment. (stability control, traction control, front/side/head airbag systems, ABS, heavier door beams and rocker panel stiffeners....oh, don't forget about all the electronic crap to monitor and control this stuff. OOOPS, forgot about all of the emissions controls too. Now add power seats, windows, locks, wham-jam stereos and amps, extra sound deadeners...it's freakin ridiculous!

But you can smash head-on into a bridge if you want! At least this car has a near perfect 50/50 front/rear weight bias!

stovt001 · 08-28-2008, 09:55 PM

Still, other manufacturers have the same requirements, and they're reducing weight. With the exception of Chrysler, GM vehicles have generally been heavier than comparable other cars. Times have not changed.

*DGthe3* · 08-28-2008, 10:40 PM

Edmunds doesn't seem to like the Camaro much however they did say that it drives nicely, so there is hope.

Weight, well consult sig

stovt001 · 08-28-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Edmunds doesn't seem to like the Camaro much however they did say that it drives nicely, so there is hope.

Weight, well consult sig

That explains why cars are heavier than they used to be, but doesn't explain why GM is consistently heavier than just about everyone buy Chrysler.

Vash · 08-29-2008, 12:04 AM

It's not heavy for the kind of car it's supposed to be. They made a nice phat old school body. Sure they could start chopping materials. Then maybe call it Vette lite? This vehicle is about the look and the moment of that look. The Camaro experiance. Not about an engine with a boat body. They already have a car for that.

*DGthe3* · 08-29-2008, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stovt001

That explains why cars are heavier than they used to be, but doesn't explain why GM is consistently heavier than just about everyone buy Chrysler.

Well, mandates are the same for everyone. GM must therefore be making cars which are bigger (which they generally do, but not always) and/or are more reliable/safer/more durable then the competition.

Rallysport · 08-29-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Well, mandates are the same for everyone. GM must therefore be making cars which are bigger (which they generally do, but not always) and/or are more reliable/safer/more durable then the competition.

GM is making cars that are more reliable/safer/durable. I'm in the collision industry, I can attest to that. I just wish the old "stigma" of American cars would be history by now, but I guess some folks will just always buy imports.

stovt001 · 08-29-2008, 05:35 PM

Fair enough. I guess the crash tests will explain a lot. Given that the Lambda clones just aced theirs, I have high expectations for the Camaro.

JEFF2010SSMANUAL · 08-31-2008, 10:13 AM

Sure the SS Camaro manual is kind of heavy @ 3860#.

But the new SMALL BMW 135i weighs 3400#

The M3 weighs 3700#

My 200hp 141tq Honda Civic Si sedan weighs 2960#.

Cars are heavy because all the new standards and technology.

gladiatoro · 08-31-2008, 10:40 AM

I will be buying a 2010 Mustang as long as it has the 5.0 in it and keeps the weight down oh and still looks good with the new body work it is getting , but if Ford doesn't deliver what I want then I will live with the 3900+ pounds (for the automatic ) of the Camaro SS and buy one because it is a great car too , with awesome looks , I guess I will decide NOV 19 at the LA auto show when the new STANG is unvealed...

Shadowsong · 08-31-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gladiatoro

I will be buying a 2010 Mustang as long as it has the 5.0 in it and keeps the weight down oh and still looks good with the new body work it is getting , but if Ford doesn't deliver what I want then I will live with the 3900+ pounds (for the automatic ) of the Camaro SS and buy one because it is a great car too , with awesome looks , I guess I will decide NOV 19 at the LA auto show when the new STANG is unvealed...

You might want to go put your name on a list at your local chevy dealer then.

There will be no 5.0 in the 2010 mustang.

gladiatoro · 08-31-2008, 01:06 PM

I hate to prove you wrong but I just found this lol..the 5.0 will be back in the BOSS 302 model or even the GT , Ford is developing the motor for the Falcon car as well in Australia here is the linkhttp://www.allfordmustangs.com/artic...le_00998.shtml

MerF · 08-31-2008, 10:03 PM

And like I told you in another thread, that was from April and it's 3rd party info at best...so it actually proves nothing.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-31-2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gladiatoro

I will be buying a 2010 Mustang as long as it has the 5.0 in it and keeps the weight down oh and still looks good with the new body work it is getting , but if Ford doesn't deliver what I want then I will live with the 3900+ pounds (for the automatic ) of the Camaro SS and buy one because it is a great car too , with awesome looks , I guess I will decide NOV 19 at the LA auto show when the new STANG is unvealed...

Even if it gets this 5.0L engine...

Test drive them BOTH............please.

08-28-2008, 09:55 PM	#30
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Still, other manufacturers have the same requirements, and they're reducing weight. With the exception of Chrysler, GM vehicles have generally been heavier than comparable other cars. Times have not changed. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

08-28-2008, 10:40 PM	#31
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Edmunds doesn't seem to like the Camaro much however they did say that it drives nicely, so there is hope. Weight, well consult sig __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

08-29-2008, 05:35 PM	#36
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Fair enough. I guess the crash tests will explain a lot. Given that the Lambda clones just aced theirs, I have high expectations for the Camaro. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

08-31-2008, 01:06 PM	#40
gladiatoro Drives: 1981 Z28 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kelowna B.C Canada Posts: 307	I hate to prove you wrong but I just found this lol..the 5.0 will be back in the BOSS 302 model or even the GT , Ford is developing the motor for the Falcon car as well in Australia here is the linkhttp://www.allfordmustangs.com/artic...le_00998.shtml Last edited by gladiatoro; 08-31-2008 at 01:43 PM.

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08-28-2008, 09:23 PM	#29
Rallysport Go Cardinals! Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS 6-speed #1879 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 855 View My Garage	Don't like the weight? Blame your friendly federal gubment and their boatload of REGULATIONS. In today's GM cars, you could practically drive off a cliff and survive with all of the built-in safety equipment. (stability control, traction control, front/side/head airbag systems, ABS, heavier door beams and rocker panel stiffeners....oh, don't forget about all the electronic crap to monitor and control this stuff. OOOPS, forgot about all of the emissions controls too. Now add power seats, windows, locks, wham-jam stereos and amps, extra sound deadeners...it's freakin ridiculous! But you can smash head-on into a bridge if you want! At least this car has a near perfect 50/50 front/rear weight bias!

08-29-2008, 12:04 AM	#33
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,104	It's not heavy for the kind of car it's supposed to be. They made a nice phat old school body. Sure they could start chopping materials. Then maybe call it Vette lite? This vehicle is about the look and the moment of that look. The Camaro experiance. Not about an engine with a boat body. They already have a car for that.

08-31-2008, 10:13 AM	#37
JEFF2010SSMANUAL JEFF2010SSMANUAL Drives: IOM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Northern IL Posts: 1,953	Sure the SS Camaro manual is kind of heavy @ 3860#. But the new SMALL BMW 135i weighs 3400# The M3 weighs 3700# My 200hp 141tq Honda Civic Si sedan weighs 2960#. Cars are heavy because all the new standards and technology.

08-31-2008, 10:40 AM	#38
gladiatoro Drives: 1981 Z28 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kelowna B.C Canada Posts: 307	I will be buying a 2010 Mustang as long as it has the 5.0 in it and keeps the weight down oh and still looks good with the new body work it is getting , but if Ford doesn't deliver what I want then I will live with the 3900+ pounds (for the automatic ) of the Camaro SS and buy one because it is a great car too , with awesome looks , I guess I will decide NOV 19 at the LA auto show when the new STANG is unvealed...

08-31-2008, 10:03 PM	#41
MerF Go Rays! Drives: 03 Trailblazer Join Date: May 2007 Location: St Pete, Florida Posts: 2,533	And like I told you in another thread, that was from April and it's 3rd party info at best...so it actually proves nothing.