01-01-2008, 11:53 PM | #1 |
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gas guzzler tax
I heard about this new federal gas guzzler tax on the radio today...apparently in 2008 we're supposed to start (or continue, if we already are) paying a gas guzzler tax of up to $4000. I'm wondering what the criteria for the tax is based on. Do they take into consideration fuel mileage or is it just based on displacement? If its measured by displacement then we're screwed cuz most of the engine's that are commonly mentioned for the base V8 are above 6 litres. If its measured by fuel mileage then I don't think we have much to worry about, especially if they go with AFM on the base V8. I'm guessing we'll see something around 30mpg (I'm old school and I'm too lazy to do the calculations to put that into litres/100kms) with AFM, 25-28mpg without.
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01-02-2008, 12:06 AM | #2 |
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It's based on miles per gallon. I just don't recall what the cut off is or what the MPG's need to be to stay out of that tax bracket.
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01-02-2008, 12:16 AM | #3 |
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^are you sure that's what its based on here in Canada?
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01-02-2008, 12:22 AM | #4 |
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hmmm..in Canada? Missed that part. No, I'm not. I just remember talking gas guzzler tax a while ago and the talk saying something to the affect that if the Camaro didn't get over "X" amount of gallons, then it would get slapped w/ the gas guzzler tax...hence the skip shift in the 4th Gens forcing people going certain speeds and under certain RPMS to shift into 4th from 1st to save on gas. That was one of GM's ways to "up" their MPG's and steer clear from the gas guzzler tax.
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01-02-2008, 08:04 AM | #5 | |
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This is how it is in the US...not sure about Canada - but, I'd assume that regulations should be very similar:
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01-02-2008, 10:28 AM | #6 |
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They apply that sort of thing here in the UK too except they go on Co2 emissions basically a newer twist on our Road Tax... some cars get a discount for being "green" but most get shafted...
But we've had the Mileage style tax for years as we pay Tax on fuel........... twice, in fact the Tax costs more than the fuel. about £1.05 per Litre around 33p for the fuel, 54p Fuel Duty Tax and then 18p (ish) on V.a.t. (Value Added Tax)... crazy. |
01-02-2008, 02:52 PM | #7 | |
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I suppose I get the idea behind it or the intention of it which is good, but 7000+, wow!! J
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01-02-2008, 03:00 PM | #8 |
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Alright fella's.... I got all worried about this so I went out searching.... here is a breif answer to the story....
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/193660 so its based on km/litre... not displacement..... or mpg, whatever you like to measure in.... so I think the new Camaro is in the clear of this tax.
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01-02-2008, 11:58 PM | #10 |
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dude, it explains how it will be measured in that gray box in the article to the right.... what we don't know is what the Camaro is gunna give in terms of km/litre or mpg.... either this or im confused as to what you were trying to say, lol... in which case excuse what I just said, lol.
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01-03-2008, 10:04 AM | #11 |
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Folks, I think we just found a Canadian tax that is less than the equivelent American one! Then again, we pay more tax on the gas itself so the government gets more money out of us anyway
oh, and 13L/100km = 18mpg! for sure the Camaro will clear that. The Camaro should average around 10L/100km or 23.5 mpg for the base V8, asuming they use all those nifto tricks they have now.
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01-06-2008, 03:21 PM | #13 |
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no problem
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