How does heat affect your performance? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

RexZL1 · 06-29-2013, 11:16 PM

I live in Texas, and lately it has been 105 every damn day. I drive my new ZL1 around in it, and it surely can't be runnin like it could. I attribute alot of the power drain to AC, but I'm hopin that one of you engineering gurus can give some objective info on the power changes with ambient temperature change.
How can it be overcome? Someone once mentioned that if you add a little torco to your fuel it would help. Why?

BAD ZL1 · 06-30-2013, 12:30 AM

Hot air is less dense than cold air. Imagine a cubic foot of air, there is less (air) in a cubic foot of hot air than a cubic foot of cold air. More mass air flow equals more power, less equals less. As far as overcoming it, mod the car with after market crap. It was 109 here in California today.

Medi0cr3 · 06-30-2013, 04:04 AM

There's a sponsor on the forum here that makes a 'superchiller' that lowers your internal air temp close to ambient. look it up, they have a couple you tube videos

bumblebeecamaro · 06-30-2013, 06:04 AM

Talk to Dave. He will take care of your chilling needs.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255045

DangerZL1 · 06-30-2013, 06:23 AM

Adding octane by mixing in some Torco to the fuel won't allow the car to overcome the high intake temps. As others have mentioned adding a superchiller would be the best solution followed by adding a larger heat exchanger with fans and additional coolant capacity to the system with an external reservoir.

joes407 · 06-30-2013, 07:05 AM

try the rx/chiller it was the first and is still the best chiller out there. ive had mine on for about a year with no issues and my IAT's stay at least 10 - 20 degrees cooler than outside ambient temps even here in florida. in competitive mode it goes even cooler than 20 degrees.

TrekGTO · 07-02-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bumblebeecamaro

Talk to Dave. He will take care of your chilling needs.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255045

Thanks Ozzie!

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Originally Posted by joes407

try the rx/chiller it was the first and is still the best chiller out there.

I made the first Super Chillers in 09 and the first SS Super Chiller in 2011 for Turbo99 thank you.

Al C. · 07-02-2013, 03:55 PM

Joe only knows what Rx tells him...

TrekGTO · 07-02-2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RexZL1

I live in Texas, and lately it has been 105 every damn day. I drive my new ZL1 around in it, and it surely can't be runnin like it could. I attribute alot of the power drain to AC, but I'm hopin that one of you engineering gurus can give some objective info on the power changes with ambient temperature change.
How can it be overcome? Someone once mentioned that if you add a little torco to your fuel it would help. Why?

Have you driven your ZL1 in winter temperatures yet? You can have that feeling year round with a Super Chiller; we have several installers in TX. I know first time I drove my GTO in temperatures below 50 deg I was sold and decided to do something about it!

Sven59 · 07-02-2013, 06:16 PM

My girlfriend likes it hot and says I perform better too!

bumblebeecamaro · 07-02-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Al C.

Joe only knows what Rx tells him...

lol

TrekGTO · 07-02-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven59

My girlfriend likes it hot and says I perform better too!

From what I heard every one in AZ likes it hot!

Combover · 07-02-2013, 07:16 PM

In stock form, about how much hp is lost with every 20 degree increase in ambient temp?

joes407 · 07-02-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Al C.

Joe only knows what Rx tells him...

I know theres 2 sides to every story and thats what happens when partnerships dissolve. I guess that's why it took him another whole year to finally get 1 ready for a car. what do you know anyway all the way out in vegas? oh that's right only what you hear on the forum.

06-29-2013, 11:16 PM	#1
RexZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Austin Posts: 124	How does heat affect your performance? I live in Texas, and lately it has been 105 every damn day. I drive my new ZL1 around in it, and it surely can't be runnin like it could. I attribute alot of the power drain to AC, but I'm hopin that one of you engineering gurus can give some objective info on the power changes with ambient temperature change. How can it be overcome? Someone once mentioned that if you add a little torco to your fuel it would help. Why?

06-30-2013, 04:04 AM	#3
Medi0cr3 Untamed Performance EPT Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: El Paso Posts: 372	There's a sponsor on the forum here that makes a 'superchiller' that lowers your internal air temp close to ambient. look it up, they have a couple you tube videos __________________ Night Fury Cam Borla LT Headers and Borla Cat Back ATAK 9in. diff with 4.11's, DSS Axles, and Alum Shaft Hurst Short-Shifter; Ideal Garage Master Cylinder H-E Street Slayer Twin Billet Clutch BMR: Adjustable; Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, Extreme Sway Bar. BMR Subframe Bushings. Strange Rear Coilovers and mounts Tuned by Rhino79

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06-30-2013, 12:30 AM	#2
BAD ZL1 BAD ZL1 Drives: 2013 VIN 48 Victory Red ZL1! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Posts: 707	Hot air is less dense than cold air. Imagine a cubic foot of air, there is less (air) in a cubic foot of hot air than a cubic foot of cold air. More mass air flow equals more power, less equals less. As far as overcoming it, mod the car with after market crap. It was 109 here in California today.

06-30-2013, 06:23 AM	#5
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	Adding octane by mixing in some Torco to the fuel won't allow the car to overcome the high intake temps. As others have mentioned adding a superchiller would be the best solution followed by adding a larger heat exchanger with fans and additional coolant capacity to the system with an external reservoir.

06-30-2013, 07:05 AM	#6
joes407 Drives: 2014 ZL1m6 red hot #569 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: florida Posts: 2,422	try the rx/chiller it was the first and is still the best chiller out there. ive had mine on for about a year with no issues and my IAT's stay at least 10 - 20 degrees cooler than outside ambient temps even here in florida. in competitive mode it goes even cooler than 20 degrees.

07-02-2013, 03:55 PM	#8
Al C. Drives: ZL1 #529 "El-Jefe" Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 668	Joe only knows what Rx tells him...

07-02-2013, 07:16 PM	#13
Combover Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Georgia Posts: 493	In stock form, about how much hp is lost with every 20 degree increase in ambient temp?