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Old 02-21-2014, 04:11 PM   #43
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Tracking the car is reported to give the brakes a 15,000 mile life.
I'd love to learn more about this; do you have a source or a link you could add? I've heard stories of poor PCCB life from GT3 owners, but Porsche uses brake modulation to help rotate the car -- which exaggerates rotor wear...
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:16 PM   #44
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Is the Z/28 a me too?

This red Z/28 is an all out performance Camaro. Not a commuter car. It brings to mind the year 2000 Mustang Cobra-R. Reading all of these Z/28 specs reminds me of reading all of the Jack Rousch specs of the Cobra R. There are 14 years technology advancements in the Z/28 and GM does have great performance technology. Interesting question: How would the two cars match up in SCCA road competition? 14 years of tech is a huge advantage, however, the Cobra R mustang has IRS and is 300 pounds lighter. Both cars are naturally aspirated. Cobra R has a 175 mph top end. It would be a good race.
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:59 PM   #45
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This red Z/28 is an all out performance Camaro. Not a commuter car. It brings to mind the year 2000 Mustang Cobra-R. Reading all of these Z/28 specs reminds me of reading all of the Jack Rousch specs of the Cobra R. There are 14 years technology advancements in the Z/28 and GM does have great performance technology. Interesting question: How would the two cars match up in SCCA road competition? 14 years of tech is a huge advantage, however, the Cobra R mustang had IRS and is 300 pounds lighter. Both cars are naturally aspirated. Cobra R had a 175 mph top end. It would be a good race.
Uh...but it's really ugly!
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Uh...but it's really ugly!
Critique this taxi cab.
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Critique this taxi cab.
If your speaking of the 5Gen(?), I find it both muscular and beautiful in design. But then again I've always loved the look of the 69'. I find them both very cohesive from a design perspective.
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Old 03-08-2014, 03:00 PM   #49
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If your speaking of the 5Gen(?), I find it both muscular and beautiful in design. But then again I've always loved the look of the 69'. I find them both very cohesive from a design perspective.
My post referred to the pictured Z-28.
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If I had to award a design winner between the '14_Z/28 and the '00 Cobra R,
I would select the Z/28. The two cars have things in common, they
are track oriented versions of street muscle cars you can license. Neither has AC,
the Cobra deleted the radio. They are by design spartan and committed to performance,
and both naturally aspirated. The Z/28 in red made me think of the '00 Cobra. The Cobra R
picture is of #184 out of 300 built and for sale here in St. Louis. I never got into the S95 design.
If I had to have one, the one pictured would be the one. Standing next to it I will say there is an attraction,
for me it is the technical package. I have met S95 owners who would disagree about the car being ugly.
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
While I think the Z/28 design is superior, if I could have either for free money,
I would take the Cobra R, and I would think it awesome, and a good race with the new Z/28.

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If I had to award a design winner between the '14_Z/28 and the '00 Cobra R,
I would select the Z/28. The two cars have things in common, they
are track oriented versions of street muscle cars you can license. Neither has AC,
the Cobra deleted the radio. They are by design spartan and committed to performance,
and both naturally aspirated. The Z/28 in red made me think of the '00 Cobra. That
picture is of #184 out of 300 built and for sale here in St. Louis. I never got into the S95 design.
If I had to have one, the one pictured would be the one. Standing next to it I will say there is an attraction,
for me it is the technical package. I have met S95 owners who would disagree about the car being ugly.
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
While I think the Z/28 design is superior, if I could have either for free money,
I would take the Cobra R, and I would think it is amazing also and good race.
Kinda like the GTR. I respect it, however it's not very attractive.

"if" you're going to "if" go for it all!
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:22 AM   #52
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New Camaro sneak peek?

I found this on the CNN/Autos site. It has been my understanding that accurate prototypes
of new models need be on wheels two years before production.
It takes that long to build the tooling, fixtures, stamping dies, and transfer lines.
This could therefore approximate the next Camaro. Looks very Chevrolet, and
very Camaro.
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:29 AM   #54
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Having driven a 2000 Cobra R on a track, it would get it's ass handed to it by the Z/28. The one I drove was bone stock and would drag the front splitter on the ground under hard braking. When it first happened it was loud enough to make me abruptly back off the brakes as I thought I broke something. Oh, and even with modern rubber, it wouldn't help the Cobra much. It has 275s all around and only a 13" front brake. Even a Mustang fan like me would have to pick the Z/28 to take on the track. Oh, and don't forget the 5.4L in the Cobra only made 385HP.

The one thing that makes me chuckle about the posted article is calling the car "lightweight" and then listing the weight as 3,820lbs. When did that become lightweight?
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Yeah it's a shame. However by comparison to the best of Europe it is lightweight. The new Audi, AMG Merc and others are in the low to mid 4,000's.
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To be fair, the best of Europe have every luxury item you could want, the Z does not.
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