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Old 11-02-2013, 10:10 PM   #29
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rental sales for a car maker is nothing to brag about when those rental sales make up a large bulk of your sales....
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:37 AM   #30
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Yep, all 3 cars will be made smaller by 2016 to meet Obamas EPA standards.
SO get any of those 3 cars b4 they change them for the worst!
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:46 AM   #31
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Must suck, losing out on those sales to Ford. Bulk buys are great news for any manufacturer. I remember being disappointed that I couldn't rent a Camaro convertible to drive from SF to LA. I mean I have a Mustang, so what was the point. Went for cheapo in the end.
Uh, fleet sales suck for all manufacturers. They're not as profitable as retail sales and it kills the resale value of retail units. There's a reason they all try to decrease their fleet percentages and if you're like GM, you have fleet models in place to protect the rest of the lineup (Impala Limited and Captiva Sport).
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:22 AM   #32
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yeah, i think the camaro refresh is hurting sales.
Plus remember that half of those new sales were 13's. Wait for a couple more months when the 13's are all sold and watch the numbers drop them.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:31 AM   #33
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Plus remember that half of those new sales were 13's. Wait for a couple more months when the 13's are all sold and watch the numbers drop them.
Where did you come up with that statistic?
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:31 AM   #34
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Where did you come up with that statistic?
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:39 AM   #35
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Lol. Right. And where did you come up with that "statistic"?



I've found that 75% of the members on camaro5 don't know what they're talking about in these forums. That's my statistic for the day.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:15 AM   #36
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Lol. Right. And where did you come up with that "statistic"?



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Old 11-03-2013, 01:13 PM   #37
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Looks like the 2014 refresh is killing sales
I've seen a few on the street, I like the new look.
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Old 11-03-2013, 01:49 PM   #38
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Don't know about the 2014 not being popular...the local dealers don't have any. They are trying to push the 13's out the door, but still wanting full...or above sticker.
That's what I'm seeing. I think the 2013 with touchscreen is the best Camaro of this generation but dealers seem to know that as well.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:36 AM   #39
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Must suck, losing out on those sales to Ford. Bulk buys are great news for any manufacturer. I remember being disappointed that I couldn't rent a Camaro convertible to drive from SF to LA. I mean I have a Mustang, so what was the point. Went for cheapo in the end.
actually it doesn't......

Something to consider: The rental fleet cars come back into the market - and they effectively in many cases drive the resale value down. That's one of the reasons that you see Chevrolet "Captivas" running around - they're not available for retail sale - rather, they're specifically for fleet (in the U.S.) so that Equinoxes can remain in retail to meet demand -- and keep residuals up.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:42 AM   #40
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actually it doesn't......

Something to consider: The rental fleet cars come back into the market - and they effectively in many cases drive the resale value down. That's one of the reasons that you see Chevrolet "Captivas" running around - they're not available for retail sale - rather, they're specifically for fleet (in the U.S.) so that Equinoxes can remain in retail to meet demand -- and keep residuals up.
Thanks for keeping the Saturn Vue around as a Chevy, even if it is a fleet vehicle, I see them on dealers used car lots now. I am planning on replacing my Saturn Vue with one when the time comes. By the way do you know how much longer they will keep selling it as a fleet vehicle?
( I just wish they had kept the Sky around as a Chevy)

Sorry for the thread jack.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:53 AM   #41
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Proof that nobody likes the refresh. :( Come on guys! We've been ahead of the Mustang every month until now. :(
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:40 AM   #42
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Proof that nobody likes the refresh. :( Come on guys! We've been ahead of the Mustang every month until now. :(
Actually that is incorrect, there have been a couple other months this year the mustang has outsold the Camaro...
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