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motorhead · 01-29-2018, 07:20 AM

I never heard anything good about extended warranty companies. I dont buy extended warranties on anything. Scam city

lbls1 · 01-29-2018, 07:52 AM

I read your OP, and I wasn't sure if you performed the modifications or whether you bought the car in this condition. Certain things are an automatic red flag, such as cats and the computer. If you removed the cats, then see if you can negotiate if you put the cats back on the car. In many states (NY) it is illegal for a dealer to sell a car without catalytic converters, so if the dealer sold you the car in this condition then they will have to make good on all of your warranty claims.

You may want to seek some cost effective legal advice if this situation gets sticky.

Silver14 · 01-29-2018, 07:52 AM

No idea if it's true or not, but I've heard roll cages in a street car are dangerous since you dont have a helmet on.

Stubbz · 01-29-2018, 10:53 AM

when I put the headers on the car it populated no codes at all.

*mlee* · 01-29-2018, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stubbz

when I put the headers on the car it populated no codes at all.

Eventually it would have but it's still a modded car either way. If it's tore down now and warranty is denied I would just pay them to fix it and chalk it up to experience.

sixty9fordkiller · 01-29-2018, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

It was as a Chevy dealer. I believe it. Go to a Porsche dealer and actually experience good customer service. GM has a long, long way to go.

F*** it! Imma take my camaro to a porsche dealer from now on!

Evil-Bee-NH · 01-29-2018, 01:00 PM

Love how everyone's so quick to quote MM stuff your all right of course but nothing states how long they can take to prove anything and in the meantime you won't have your car and they know it.

Rainbow1616 · 01-29-2018, 04:22 PM

A car without cats breaks the law in every state and in every state dealers are not allowed to sell cars without cats.
For this reason you're pretty much screwed. Live and learn

DvKillar · 01-29-2018, 04:29 PM

FACT: Millennium Extended warranty has in their fine print that head gaskets are NOT COVERED! I found that one out the hard way!

Royal Tiger · 01-29-2018, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sixty9fordkiller

F*** it! Imma take my camaro to a porsche dealer from now on!

You could try.

I was talking about the difference in actual customer service. Of course Honda, Toyota, and Subaru all blow away chevy dealers in that regard.

Stubbz · 01-29-2018, 07:23 PM

I'm gonna fix it myself and just upgraded everything and get rid of the warranty its gonna be cheaper then paying dealer.

Mr_Draco · 01-29-2018, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron0731

I could be wrong but I believe the burden of proof is on them to prove that the mods caused the failure.

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Originally Posted by Gunmetal Speedster

They have to prove the modifications caused the failure, not the other way around.

Nope. Manufacturers have already done their trials and stress testing and have tons of data that show if you do this to a car then these are the things that are effected and their failure rates. This data is perfectly admissible in court. It then falls upon you to prove them wrong, that what you didn't cause the failure or increase the failure rate of that part.

MrChrisLS3 · 01-30-2018, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

Nope. Manufacturers have already done their trials and stress testing and have tons of data that show if you do this to a car then these are the things that are effected and their failure rates. This data is perfectly admissible in court. It then falls upon you to prove them wrong, that what you didn't cause the failure or increase the failure rate of that part.

And anything that will increase out put will increase the failure rate.

baum · 01-30-2018, 06:38 AM

the magnusson moss only cover the factory 3 year/36k warranty. after that its up to the warranty companies. In this case it sounds like you have a 3rd party and not a gm warranty so you are pretty much sol unless a lawyer can prove different.

01-29-2018, 07:52 AM	#30
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,024	I read your OP, and I wasn't sure if you performed the modifications or whether you bought the car in this condition. Certain things are an automatic red flag, such as cats and the computer. If you removed the cats, then see if you can negotiate if you put the cats back on the car. In many states (NY) it is illegal for a dealer to sell a car without catalytic converters, so if the dealer sold you the car in this condition then they will have to make good on all of your warranty claims. You may want to seek some cost effective legal advice if this situation gets sticky. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

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01-29-2018, 07:20 AM	#29
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	I never heard anything good about extended warranty companies. I dont buy extended warranties on anything. Scam city

01-29-2018, 07:52 AM	#31
Silver14 Drives: 2014 SIM 2SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 925	No idea if it's true or not, but I've heard roll cages in a street car are dangerous since you dont have a helmet on.

01-29-2018, 10:53 AM	#32
Stubbz Drives: 2011 camaro SS Join Date: May 2014 Location: White sands missile range Posts: 33	when I put the headers on the car it populated no codes at all.

01-29-2018, 04:22 PM	#36
Rainbow1616 Drives: 2011 Inferno Orange Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,368	A car without cats breaks the law in every state and in every state dealers are not allowed to sell cars without cats. For this reason you're pretty much screwed. Live and learn

01-29-2018, 04:29 PM	#37
DvKillar Drives: 2015 Chevy Camaro 2LS Join Date: May 2017 Location: MWC, OK Posts: 815	FACT: Millennium Extended warranty has in their fine print that head gaskets are NOT COVERED! I found that one out the hard way!

01-29-2018, 07:23 PM	#39
Stubbz Drives: 2011 camaro SS Join Date: May 2014 Location: White sands missile range Posts: 33	I'm gonna fix it myself and just upgraded everything and get rid of the warranty its gonna be cheaper then paying dealer.

01-30-2018, 06:38 AM	#42
baum Drives: 2013 1LS, 2013 Ram 1500 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Minneapolis, mn Posts: 645	the magnusson moss only cover the factory 3 year/36k warranty. after that its up to the warranty companies. In this case it sounds like you have a 3rd party and not a gm warranty so you are pretty much sol unless a lawyer can prove different.