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Old 12-21-2017, 02:59 AM   #589
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Huh.... it ran slower without perfect prep at a track rental ?

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I mean it was just an excuse because I wake up with night sweats running from that coyote. Surprised it came true

Ps... I’ll give you the tire edge and raise you that this was a fing manual SS lmfao. Good thing this wasnt a base manual gt vs base SS. Would have really waxed that ass nice and proper lol. Mustang buyers make sure you decode the order sheet and spend 50 grand to get a GT with proper tire and gear and launch mode etc if you want to run a BASE SS lol... FURD

Hopefully a 50 grand GT optioned with launch mode mag ride and 3.55 gears can tie a base SS on runflats. As it will have a tire advantage among other things. But I’m guessing when the GT has better tires we won’t hear much about it

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Old 12-21-2017, 04:03 AM   #590
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Oh I bet they're mad alright. And I bet they're really pissed that I and others was right and that now they can't come over here in masses to brag, lol!! Too bad M6G, too bad.

But really, what were they expecting? The 5th Gen SS ran a 12.9-13.1 in testing while the 15-17 GT ran similar times. The 6th Gen SS got a boost up to 455 hp, the A8 trans, an awesome tire, and a seriously reworked suspension. And they ran 12.3-12.4 in testing. So now the GT gets worked to 460 hp, gets the A10 trans which is not much better than the A8 if it is even better at all, the suspension is still not on par, the weight between the two is similar, and they retained the crappy Pirelli tires. So did they really think it was going to do high 11s in testing? LOL!

Plus consider that lots of guys got the SS into the high 11s despite the testing showing it to be 12.3-12.4. So some guy hits an 11.8 suspect-as-hell run in his...even if it was legit that still would put it right in league with the SS and would mean that it too would do a mid 12 in official testing. I said higher for the GT because the SS has better tires. So the SS is mid to low 12s and the GT is mid to high 12s...because I'm guessing the M6 GT will be 12.7-12.9. And this all goes right along with the 2 shops who ran a 12.2 and 12.3 with DRs. I mean, these goons really thought the GT was just gonna magically blow the SS away. And they honestly thought it would bang heads with the ZL1. Not even close. 8 tenths of a second off from the M6 ZL1 and 1.2 seconds off from the A10 ZL1. I hope they learned their lesson.

BTW, I'm going back to find all the posts these guys made about how I'm gonna feel when the GT beats the SS and when it posts a low 12, lol!! I hope they got some hot sauce for them words they're about to eat!!

12.6 in the A10, lol!! Can't even beat the M6 SS. **** outta here. It's better than the 15-17s so I'll give them that.
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Old 12-21-2017, 06:12 AM   #591
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I asked about recent times in the car you currently own. When did you run those times in your sig and do you still own that car? I have a feeling the answers are "long time ago" and "no" respectively....
I said those are the cars I own in my sig, you are more obtuse than I thought.

2016 for the shelby and 2017 for the cobra times. The 8.27 was letting off at around 1000ft, just this last November at SCSN in Vegas.

So, your feelings are wrong and wrong but I'm sure you're used to that.

Post up your times for your cars, you said you post everything...

PS. Why did the GT out trap the SS in Edmonds H2H?
They both ran shitty ET compared to the hero times.
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Old 12-21-2017, 06:28 AM   #592
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Huh.... it ran slower without perfect prep at a track rental ?

Shocking

I mean it was just an excuse because I wake up with night sweats running from that coyote. Surprised it came true

Ps... I’ll give you the tire edge and raise you that this was a fing manual SS lmfao. Good thing this wasnt a base manual gt vs base SS. Would have really waxed that ass nice and proper lol. Mustang buyers make sure you decode the order sheet and spend 50 grand to get a GT with proper tire and gear and launch mode etc if you want to run a BASE SS lol... FURD

Hopefully a 50 grand GT optioned with launch mode mag ride and 3.55 gears can tie a base SS on runflats. As it will have a tire advantage among other things. But I’m guessing when the GT has better tires we won’t hear much about it
This is exactly what I been saying. Ford will need an asterisk car (certain option/mode combination) to run against a base SS. Every SS is equally capable and the GT is not yet every fanboy with this exact combo GT will still claim his car runs 11.8. Typical Ford

Wait until the $53k GT PP* overheats in a H2H because it has NO COOLERS! Ford fanboys are like a battered wife. Making excuses with their "great" aftermarket for the deficiencies
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Old 12-21-2017, 06:34 AM   #593
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Looks like blaq might be able to beat my cruze or dmax.

Great times with bolt ons and A10 buddy. LOL

Wonder what his times are with his m6 hellcat....
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Old 12-21-2017, 06:46 AM   #594
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PS. Why did the GT out trap the SS in Edmonds H2H?
They both ran shitty ET compared to the hero times.
Simple.... A10..


When C&D ran the 2016 A8 SS, it ran a 12.3 @ 116 mph

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ic-test-review
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Old 12-21-2017, 06:54 AM   #595
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Simple.... A10..


When C&D ran the 2016 A8 SS, it ran a 12.3 @ 116 mph

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ic-test-review
Typically m6 out traps automagic.

Maybe the a10 is that good?
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Old 12-21-2017, 06:59 AM   #596
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I said those are the cars I own in my sig, you are more obtuse than I thought.

2016 for the shelby and 2017 for the cobra times. The 8.27 was letting off at around 1000ft, just this last November at SCSN in Vegas.

So, your feelings are wrong and wrong but I'm sure you're used to that.

Post up your times for your cars, you said you post everything...

PS. Why did the GT out trap the SS in Edmonds H2H?
They both ran shitty ET compared to the hero times.
Yea and my 11.8 was a no effort run with me just messing around at the track. I have the video if you wanna see it. No launching, rolling off idle. And that was my 7th run in that car over the course of 3 weeks. It takes very little effort to run an 11 in the A10 ZL1. And I for one am not gonna beat on my car. But I'd love to see that time slip of yours. Mine is on the same thread where you pulled the pic. Where is yours?

As far as the GT out trapping the SS, why did the GT need the A10 against the M6 in the SS? The A8 has tested 2 tenths of a second faster thru Edmunds. And a 115 mph...do I need to post the link? Your precious little GT didn't do as well as you all hoped and dreamed it would. It is safe to say that it won't beat the A8 SS and that it is not an 11 sec car. At this point it isn't even a low 12 sec car. Just like I called it.
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Old 12-21-2017, 07:13 AM   #597
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I bet M6G is in full meltdown mode. "But, but, Evans", "but, but, 11.8", "but, but E85, tune, and tire", "but, but A10 trans". LOL! Too bad to all the dreamers out there, lol!! Too bad...
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Old 12-21-2017, 07:21 AM   #598
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Yea and my 11.8 was a no effort run with me just messing around at the track. I have the video if you wanna see it. No launching, rolling off idle. And that was my 7th run in that car over the course of 3 weeks. It takes very little effort to run an 11 in the A10 ZL1. And I for one am not gonna beat on my car. But I'd love to see that time slip of yours. Mine is on the same thread where you pulled the pic. Where is yours?

As far as the GT out trapping the SS, why did the GT need the A10 against the M6 in the SS? The A8 has tested 2 tenths of a second faster thru Edmunds. And a 115 mph...do I need to post the link? Your precious little GT didn't do as well as you all hoped and dreamed it would. It is safe to say that it won't beat the A8 SS and that it is not an 11 sec car. At this point it isn't even a low 12 sec car. Just like I called it.
Here's my 8.27 my 10.10 is on a diff laptop and I'm nowhere near it for about another week.

Where is your hellcat slip at? Post it up.

PS. I think the H2H GT vs SS should have been auto to auto or m6 to m6. That comparison they did was kinda shitty. SS trap was disappointing either way.
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Pretty funny. BlaqWhole called mid 12s and the first out was worse. M6G shit storm, butthurt, ... Troll on.
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The reviews wont be good to the Camaro. I dont think they have been great so far, people favor the cabin experience of the Mustang a lot. Considering the '18 got more power and MUCH louder exhaust, I think the subjective input will lean towards the Mustang. Performance seems to stay as it was, just a smaller gap now.
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Old 12-21-2017, 07:41 AM   #601
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every honest test of the 2 cars has been with a PP car since 2015. why drag out a base car now? what about the 4 other add-on packages the car had on it? those are ok because they dont help performance only hurt?

when PP2 releases what will the PP1 be compared against to be honest?

silly to not match the cars based on equipment and price. automatic vs. manual even?
I agree. Performance wise the below makes more sense. I will admit the '18 base GT skews the below, and I don't mean to bash your beloved GT by pitting it against the V6 1LE, but damn that base 15-17 is a total turd performance wise.

Mustang base GT v V6 1LE
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Here's my 8.27 my 10.10 is on a diff laptop and I'm nowhere near it for about another week.

Where is your hellcat slip at? Post it up.

PS. I think the H2H GT vs SS should have been auto to auto or m6 to m6. That comparison they did was kinda shitty. SS trap was disappointing either way.
Good job bro, wrong thread. We're not talkin Hellcats here.
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