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kgendron71 · 04-03-2015, 12:40 PM

Dealers are afraid of modified cars. They represent a possible lawsuit if involved in an accident and customer service nightmare if they can't warranty the car post sale.
Mod the hell out of your cars but keep all the original parts. When it's time for the next best thing just convert you car back to stock and sell your mods on Camaro5 for somebody else to enjoy.

Stephen12ZL1 · 04-03-2015, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kgendron71

Dealers are afraid of modified cars. They represent a possible lawsuit if involved in an accident and customer service nightmare if they can't warranty the car post sale.
Mod the hell out of your cars but keep all the original parts. When it's time for the next best thing just convert you car back to stock and sell your mods on Camaro5 for somebody else to enjoy.

Exactly what I did. I really didn't think the lowering springs were that big of a deal. My tired back didn't really feel like removing them and going back to stock springs. Lesson learned...

hotlap · 04-03-2015, 03:38 PM

Gotcha. It's been so long since I've traded a car that I didn't consider their ability to service it.

Alfieboy · 04-05-2015, 12:16 AM

true ..as stated..dealers want NO mods..none......see ya in a few days bud!....

Stephen12ZL1 · 04-05-2015, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Mac

Op I can appreciate how you can man up and handle your problems.

Now all kidding aside, I don't know what to say. Put I do like your problems.

I went back and forth for about an hour on the Z28 or the ZL1. I knew I wanted all the gizmos in the car, plus smooth riding.

ZL1 trumps the Z/28 in 98% of the situations. I will see how awesome that 2% turns out to be in a week.

OldJedi · 04-05-2015, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

I really enjoyed the ZL1 for the best all around everyday, road course, and drag strip car. But, I know what I have, and I will not go back to a ZL1. Honestly, if you never go to a road course there is no reason to own a Z/28.

Stephen, congratulations on your new Z28 purchase. I have always looked forward to reading about your ZL1 mods and accomplishments. I know you will enjoy the Z28. I enjoy taking my ZL1 to the track having done Sebring, Homestead and PBIR. But for the three or four times a year I track the ZL1 I know I do not need the Z28. I am curious though if you tracked the new Corvette before you decided to buy the Z28? I found tracking the Z51 much more precise compared to the ZL1. I have NOT tracked or driven the Z28 but curious if you found the Z28 a better track car compared to the Z51 or even a Z06?

Stephen12ZL1 · 04-06-2015, 06:00 AM

I didn't try a C7 at the track but ran with a few of them and they are no joke. My wife said "no Vette" so I had to start somewhere and the Z/28 seemed the obvious choice.

OldJedi · 04-06-2015, 04:09 PM

Well if the wife said "NO VETTE" then the Z28 would have been my first choice too. Having tracked the ZL1 and a Z51 I can say that driving the Vette is like driving a scalpel. I love the brute force of the ZL1 especially down the straits but the Z51 is and feels much lighter and has much more finesse through the turns. I was in awe the first time I tracked the Vette, it was almost like it could read your mind as to what you wanted it to do. I am very fortunate to be able to have both cars. Both my wife and I are taking the 2 day driving school offered by Chevrolet at the Ron Fellows Driving School for C7 Corvette owners. The same offer should have been extended to Z28 owners. If you ever get a chance to track a Z51/Z06 I would like to get your opinion of how it compares to your Z28. Good luck with your new car and I wish you well.

Stephen12ZL1 · 04-06-2015, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJedi

Well if the wife said "NO VETTE" then the Z28 would have been my first choice too. Having tracked the ZL1 and a Z51 I can say that driving the Vette is like driving a scalpel. I love the brute force of the ZL1 especially down the straits but the Z51 is and feels much lighter and has much more finesse through the turns. I was in awe the first time I tracked the Vette, it was almost like it could read your mind as to what you wanted it to do. I am very fortunate to be able to have both cars. Both my wife and I are taking the 2 day driving school offered by Chevrolet at the Ron Fellows Driving School for C7 Corvette owners. The same offer should have been extended to Z28 owners. If you ever get a chance to track a Z51/Z06 I would like to get your opinion of how it compares to your Z28. Good luck with your new car and I wish you well.

Thanks! Good luck at the Ron Fellows Driving School! I will be able to give the ZL1 vs Z/28 comparison after next week at VIR. Can't wait!

cam99 · 04-06-2015, 04:25 PM

Congrats on the new car, I'm sure it will be a blast on the roadcourse!

big dave · 04-06-2015, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cam99

Congrats on the new car, I'm sure it will be a blast on the roadcourse!

It's sad that the 2 guys whose progress I followed most closely (cam, Stephen), have gotten rid of their cars. Cam did so much with so little, and Stephen's car ultimately ran what I would hope to run 1 day without going into the engine.

Six.Two SC · 04-07-2015, 06:32 AM

Not so much worrying about heatsoak now. Congrats!

96ss1664 · 04-07-2015, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

Exactly what I did. I really didn't think the lowering springs were that big of a deal. My tired back didn't really feel like removing them and going back to stock springs. Lesson learned...

Congrats on getting a new Z28, but I find it funny that the dealers freak out over mods on cars but will have at least 5 brand new Chevy pickup trucks on the lot with at least a 6" suspension lift on them.

04-03-2015, 03:38 PM	#31
hotlap Drives: 20 1LE 2SS M6 Rally Green Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Franklin WI Posts: 6,632	Gotcha. It's been so long since I've traded a car that I didn't consider their ability to service it. __________________ "the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” Ronald Reagan -

04-06-2015, 06:00 AM	#35
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,809	I didn't try a C7 at the track but ran with a few of them and they are no joke. My wife said "no Vette" so I had to start somewhere and the Z/28 seemed the obvious choice. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

04-06-2015, 04:09 PM	#36
OldJedi Use the Force Drives: 2015 Corvette Z51, 2018 Porsche GTS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Davie, Fl. Posts: 3,862	Well if the wife said "NO VETTE" then the Z28 would have been my first choice too. Having tracked the ZL1 and a Z51 I can say that driving the Vette is like driving a scalpel. I love the brute force of the ZL1 especially down the straits but the Z51 is and feels much lighter and has much more finesse through the turns. I was in awe the first time I tracked the Vette, it was almost like it could read your mind as to what you wanted it to do. I am very fortunate to be able to have both cars. Both my wife and I are taking the 2 day driving school offered by Chevrolet at the Ron Fellows Driving School for C7 Corvette owners. The same offer should have been extended to Z28 owners. If you ever get a chance to track a Z51/Z06 I would like to get your opinion of how it compares to your Z28. Good luck with your new car and I wish you well. __________________ Walk softly, carry a light saber and drive a ZL1!

04-06-2015, 04:25 PM	#38
cam99 Drives: 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: pittsburgh area Posts: 1,426	Congrats on the new car, I'm sure it will be a blast on the roadcourse! __________________ 2012 CTF ZL1-stock 2012 ZL1 (sold) JRE 75rwhp kit catless ported lsa TB 11.04 @ 128.35 on hoosier drs and skinnies @ PRP with 1100DA

04-07-2015, 06:32 AM	#40
Six.Two SC Drives: 2018 Summit White Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 352	Not so much worrying about heatsoak now. Congrats! __________________ '18 Satin White Vinyl Wrapped 1SS, 6MT, Low Gloss Black Wheels, NPP Dual Mode Exhaust Added: Diode Dynamics Black LED Sidemarkers, GM Dark Finish Tailights, GM ZL1 Black 3rd Brake Light, Black Plastidipped Bowties(front/rear), AFE Dry Drop In Filter, 12mm Spacers(front/rear)

04-03-2015, 12:40 PM	#29
kgendron71 REDHOT_ZL1 Drives: 2014 Red Hot ZL1 M6 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Gainesville, Fl. Posts: 194	Dealers are afraid of modified cars. They represent a possible lawsuit if involved in an accident and customer service nightmare if they can't warranty the car post sale. Mod the hell out of your cars but keep all the original parts. When it's time for the next best thing just convert you car back to stock and sell your mods on Camaro5 for somebody else to enjoy.

04-05-2015, 12:16 AM	#32
Alfieboy Madman Drives: 2017 1SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: RICHMOND VA Posts: 1,405 View My Garage	true ..as stated..dealers want NO mods..none......see ya in a few days bud!....