[Stealth7]

The LT4 in our cars is a very good motor--lots of power and a fat power curve. My car is a 2018 A10 and I just love it (and I have had many performance cars in the past).

My only mods are RotoFab and Borla S Cat-Back and I will likely keep it that way.

This forum is full of threads and posts of those modding with pulleys, tunes, new blowers, headers, etc. Warranty issues aside, how are the modders getting traction? In SoCal lately we have had cooler temps from high 40s to high 60sF and traction is an issue in the first few gears--largely stock! The setting of Sport + two pushes for Competitive Stabiliktrac or whatever is definitely a no go.

Accordingly, what are those with 700rwhp and up doing for traction? Just curious.

Thanks, and Happy Holidays!

[Gunkk]

The OEM tires need heat to grip. Below 60F they will be slippery until they warm up.

[Stealth7]

Understood, but even after warming I can break traction in the first several gears using a heavy right foot.

[Stealth7]

Bump!

Seriously, are those with > 700 hp crank just using gas pedal management? My ZL1 will break traction at 70mph +, even on warm tires.

If the LT5 ever makes it into our cars (future models), I hope there is a plan for traction!

[TripleBlkZL1]

I’m at 749rwhp SAE and I plan on using toyo r888rs 315’s for the street and a set of Mickey Thompson’s with 17 inch weld rims for dig races. It was 38 degrees one day and still on stock tires and it hooked from a 80 roll. When it just had an intake I had no traction issues at all... even on a cold day. You shouldn’t be losing traction at 100 mph plus with the mods you have.

[Indyblue98]

[QUOTE=Stealth7;10459834]Bum!

Seriously, are those with > 700 hp crank just using gas pedal management? My ZL1 will break traction at 100mph +, even on warm tires. QUOTE]



Seems a bit optimistic , maybe you have a terrible alignment problem,
grit on the roads or misreading the moves and noises the car makes at speed/Boost for slippage.
Several have posted complaints about the cars factory alignment causing wandering at 100+


With air temps in the low 50's
I used the PDR to do some 1/4 mile test, Stock Car, and only had wheel spin in 1 and 2
recorded best 11.6 at 122 .

[Stealth7]

No alignment issues, and I have had plenty of sportscars. This is just pure hits of power to the rear wheels. My car has 6,400 mi. on it so I still have tire left as well.

Throttle management is really the solution, but with increased power of 100-200rwhp, traction would be silly. It is not an accident that so many performance cars now come with AWD.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Stealth7

No alignment issues, and I have had plenty of sportscars. This is just pure hits of power to the rear wheels. My car has 6,400 mi. on it so I still have tire left as well.

Throttle management is really the solution, but with increased power of 100-200rwhp, traction would be silly. It is not an accident that so many performance cars now come with AWD.

THIS.

The HP wars have outpaced tire technology advancements. AWD is the only way to keep up.

[17CamaroZL1]

Something doesn't sound right. I've always felt I have had more traction than I'd like to have when I'm trying to play. Even with full air in the rear tires, I can turn everything off, and floor it at a stop light, and it will just lightly spin as it accelerates hard. I have to hold the brakes to do any massive burnouts or cut the wheels pretty deep to make it start drifting. Now it does liven up with cooler temps, but still not what you'd expect with our power levels. Guess it's a good grippy setup and torque management that make it hook so well.

[drfeelgood]

I'm with the OP, but with OEM setup I wa fine. I now have RotoFab + TonyMamo TB + 2.3" upper griptech pulley + Borla Catback and a retune. The power increase is crazy and my car is all over the place. I installed brand new Michelin PS4's and got a 4 wheel alignment... same! I can no longer accelerate from a dig without fishtailing all over the place, and even pulls from a roll has the car swerving in any mode other than track mode... its almost not even fun anymore

**note** I have a convertible and thus do not have the electronic LSD, not sure if that should be such a huge issue... I'm going back to the tuner

[BDivine76]

Originally Posted by 17CamaroZL1

Something doesn't sound right. I've always felt I have had more traction than I'd like to have when I'm trying to play. Even with full air in the rear tires, I can turn everything off, and floor it at a stop light, and it will just lightly spin as it accelerates hard. I have to hold the brakes to do any massive burnouts or cut the wheels pretty deep to make it start drifting. Now it does liven up with cooler temps, but still not what you'd expect with our power levels. Guess it's a good grippy setup and torque management that make it hook so well.

Something is off here. If I turn off TC in Tour and hammer the gas pedal from a stop it results in a burnout as long as I want it to go. I've done 100+ feet no problem. If you need to use the brakes because the car has too much traction to spin the wheels that doesn't seem to fit with what I think most people's experiences with the cars are.

[BMWM.D.]

Originally Posted by BDivine76

Something is off here. If I turn off TC in Tour and hammer the gas pedal from a stop it results in a burnout as long as I want it to go. I've done 100+ feet no problem. If you need to use the brakes because the car has too much traction to spin the wheels that doesn't seem to fit with what I think most people's experiences with the cars are.

His car is one of the few bone stock cars to break into the 10’s, so I don’t think he’s missing any power. I think tire wear and temperature plays a big role here. I definitely have traction issues, but I’m not stock and use 17” ET Street Rs at the track.

[GT-ER]

I have a whipple installed and estimate I have maybe 700whp or more. Below 60*F my car will spin it's tires under 70mph pretty badly. Above 60 though, I think my traction is pretty decent with the stock tires. I have R888R's sitting at home but will install them when I get some more mods and traction REALLY becomes a problem.

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by BDivine76

Something is off here. If I turn off TC in Tour and hammer the gas pedal from a stop it results in a burnout as long as I want it to go. I've done 100+ feet no problem. If you need to use the brakes because the car has too much traction to spin the wheels that doesn't seem to fit with what I think most people's experiences with the cars are.

It will spin without brakes, but it doesn't light them up unless it's cold out and/or the tires are cold, or use brakes or steering. Maybe Tour mode has something to do with it. I'm pretty much always in Sport. I've never driven it hard in Tour. I'll try both modes next time I get it out and see if there's a noticeable difference.