Dissapointing race out come.

[AngelSpeedFreak]

Originally Posted by superchargemyride

I had a 2006 GTO but the Camaro is sooo much beter looking than the GTO IMO.

True that...

[1Camaro2SS]

The gto looks cheesy imo but I've seen em move. There is one in my subdivision with license plates that says "404RWHP" of course anybody can get a plate to say anything but this one sounds like a beast.

[Ravener]

An M6 06 GTO only weighs 100 lbs less than an M6 SS with a 26 HP deficit which still gives an all else being equal advantage to the SS...which mounts wider rear tires stock. The headers and tune however lends good gains to the ls2 just as they do to the ls3. That 30-40+ HP bump can make all the difference.

I had an 06 A6 GTO putting 630 to the wheels...tremendously well built car with an interior that should make GM feel shame about the camaro interior. If it didn't look like a low rent cavalier i might have kept it...

[Rage]

Originally Posted by Ravener

If it didn't look like a low rent cavalier i might have kept it...

[Texas2SS]

Originally Posted by Ravener

An M6 06 GTO only weighs 100 lbs less than an M6 SS with a 26 HP deficit which still gives an all else being equal advantage to the SS...which mounts wider rear tires stock. The headers and tune however lends good gains to the ls2 just as they do to the ls3. That 30-40+ HP bump can make all the difference.

I had an 06 A6 GTO putting 630 to the wheels...tremendously well built car with an interior that should make GM feel shame about the camaro interior. If it didn't look like a low rent cavalier i might have kept it...

Most honest words I've heard lately.

I miss the interior of the Goat.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by REDXIIIDave

Your manual trans is what cost you. He was running probably a little more horsepower, and didn't have to shift. Unless you are an expert with shifting, the auto will take you if all else is equal.

I doubt it was the trans.

[mgoodbar]

low rent cavalier ..


I was going to get a GTo, glad i went the extra mile and have my baby... much sexier....

[Xmicro_SS]

Originally Posted by PercyJWellingtonIII

I doubt it was the trans.

On the twists and turns a manual is better, on straight aways the auto has a slight edge. Auto is way too boring for me, I wouldn't care if it was a full 1/2 second faster 0-60, I would still buy a manual.

As far as the GTO vs Camaro. Again, I would rather lose in style than win and be ugly! There is always someone faster, but prettier............that is different!

[LittleMT]

Originally Posted by Xmicro_SS

On the twists and turns a manual is better, on straight aways the auto has a slight edge. Auto is way too boring for me, I wouldn't care if it was a full 1/2 second faster 0-60, I would still buy a manual.

As far as the GTO vs Camaro. Again, I would rather lose in style than win and be ugly! There is always someone faster, but prettier............that is different!

but thats in the eye of the beholder, as alot of GTO owners think the Camaro is a ugly brick.

The faster car is undisputable, so to some GTO owners, they might look at you as uglier and slower.

[Fireslayer]

I don't think the GTO's would have sold nearly as many as they have/did if the G5 camaro would of been available as well. Hands down, the Camaro is SOOO much of a sharper looking car. The GTO's remind me of a modern Grand AM GT from the 90's. There's nothing, except power, that resembles the real GTO's of the day. Now those were stylish. GM seriously missed the boat with the new GTO's....

Oh yeah, headers and tune was the big difference.....

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by LimaCharlie

Sounds right. The GTO is probably making around 410 rear wheel horsepower with the headers and tune. Your car is making about 375.
The GTO weighs a little less too.

No, GTOs (auto and manuals) have LS2s (400hp).

To make 410 rwhp on a GTO you need bolt ons + cam (similar to an L99 A6 Camaro).

Manual GTO dyno around 340 rwhp (on average).
Automatic GTO dyno down around 320 rwhp (on average).

In this case the owner had an A4 (auto) GTO would only be around 350 rwhp with headers and a tune.


And don't forget, headers and a tune make a car noticably faster. Your axle back is worth
0hp and you intake maybe 10hp (maybe). He probably picked up 30-40hp with headers and a tune.

[DuhKoDuh]

Don't worry my a6 ss got beat by a 2004 stock cobra with parts from every car you can imagine. It was a piece of junk and beat me in every race we did. :/ I was very disappointed in my camaro.

[PercyJWellingtonIII]

Originally Posted by LittleMT

but thats in the eye of the beholder, as alot of GTO owners think the Camaro is a ugly brick.

The faster car is undisputable, so to some GTO owners, they might look at you as uglier and slower.

The GTO was an extremely ugly car, its why it didnt sell. Nice package with an over sized Honda Civic body.

[xXSilencerXx]

Sounds right, stock Camaro's aren't that fast. It's easy to make the same speed out of 4th gens and Goats with a few bolt ons and a tune.