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hush · 05-10-2014, 09:02 AM

I don't live in the US but have official retailers for GM/Chevy/Hummer etc where we lease cars. I would strongly recommend not modifying your car original parts. We did that to a Hummer H3 and they wont take it back if you cant restore it to original cus they cant vouch for the next customer that your job is properly done and could mean big repair bills for Hummer in the end. Its in the contract aswell.
So we had to buy the car out and then sell it ourselves which was a pain in the a$$.

I took my exhaust off of the Camaro and bought a SW instead so that i can restore it at the end of the lease period. I dont dare making permanent mods to it.

black79ta · 05-11-2014, 09:03 AM

When I pulled my exhaust to install FAT 3 yes ago. ..I thought I was factory welded from the cats back to the tips. A muffler delete requires cutting off the muffler.

376LS3 · 05-12-2014, 02:40 AM

It absolutely does not need to be cut. The entire exhaust is slip fit. Its slip fit from the cat back, with another slip fit connection after the axle. If yours was welded, you bought your car used, and they welded it for some reason.

ST1LE · 05-12-2014, 08:53 AM

Why are you guys leasing cars with the intention of modding them? Seems like asking for trouble.

TXLS3 · 05-12-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ST1LE

Why are you guys leasing cars with the intention of modding them? Seems like asking for trouble.

I agree.. you're playing with fire.

376LS3 · 05-12-2014, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ST1LE

Why are you guys leasing cars with the intention of modding them? Seems like asking for trouble.

While I do agree it would be absurd to extensively modify a lease car, I see no issue changing out the exhaust as long as he leaves the stock exhaust alone to reinstall when the time comes. It's a 20 minute swap if he does it right and doesn't cut anything. The exhaust has no impact on engine performance so there's no danger of damage occurring.

TXLS3 · 05-12-2014, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 376LS3

While I do agree it would be absurd to extensively modify a lease car, I see no issue changing out the exhaust as long as he leaves the stock exhaust alone to reinstall when the time comes. It's a 20 minute swap if he does it right and doesn't cut anything. The exhaust has no impact on engine performance so there's no danger of damage occurring.

On a lease the dealership handles all routine maintenance this means he'd have to swap it every time he brings in the car for scheduled maintenance.. Seeing as it's a lease not everyone will agree on modding it at all. Personally I wouldn't because it seems like throwing away money.. He already knows it has to be removed. So he will pay for a muffler delete then pay this same guy to put the stock exhaust back on.. And aren't leases suppose to be cheaper options for people who don't drive much and don't want to deal with maintaining the vehicle?

Angrybird 12 · 05-12-2014, 06:07 PM

One reason I will never again lease a car, I did it once but I never felt the car was mine to do what I wanted to with it...

matt55 · 05-12-2014, 11:00 PM

The only slip fit is from cats to cat back , no slip fit after axle.

Rock on · 05-13-2014, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by matt55

The only slip fit is from cats to cat back , no slip fit after axle.

That pic alone is a good reason for muffler delete

Denis · 05-13-2014, 07:20 AM

honestly i wouldnt cut up the stock exhaust on a leased car. buy a cat-back and set the OE exhaust aside. when its time to turn the car in, put the OE exhaust back on. easy day. no cutting or worrying.

376LS3 · 05-15-2014, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by matt55

The only slip fit is from cats to cat back , no slip fit after axle.

Is that for automatics only? My exhaust comes apart about a foot and a half from the muffler. I really didnt know autos were different....I wonder why?

JCunningham · 05-15-2014, 02:56 AM

the stock exhaust is one piece from cats back. no slip fit. That pic is from a auto. Here is the manual exhaust.

I would not cut the stock exhaust. They may not catch it but if they do it will cost you around $2000 to replaces it.
If you want to do a muffler delete get a take off stock exhaust and keep yours in tacked so you can just replace it.
Im near Buffalo NY. probably too far for you but $100 and you pick it up and its yours. it has 6000 miles on it. Its already cut for the muffler delete. I bought a cat back and no longer need it.

Mark Myles · 05-15-2014, 05:50 AM

If you had to lease it and you only have a $200 budget for exhaust, I personally don't believe you should do anything to the car.
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05-11-2014, 09:03 AM	#16
black79ta Drives: 79 transam with 582cid dart motor Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: missouri Posts: 529 View My Garage	When I pulled my exhaust to install FAT 3 yes ago. ..I thought I was factory welded from the cats back to the tips. A muffler delete requires cutting off the muffler. __________________ 2010 Camaro (inferno orange, 2SS, RS and such) cat backs, catch can, CAI on the way 79 Transam, 582 cid dart motor 779hp 315's out back 40spline gdaxles tko tranny

05-12-2014, 02:40 AM	#17
376LS3 Eh, that'll happen Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 1,841	It absolutely does not need to be cut. The entire exhaust is slip fit. Its slip fit from the cat back, with another slip fit connection after the axle. If yours was welded, you bought your car used, and they welded it for some reason. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS LS3 - No Modz

05-12-2014, 08:53 AM	#18
ST1LE Drives: E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 4,496	Why are you guys leasing cars with the intention of modding them? Seems like asking for trouble. __________________ SOLD - 2013 1LE - Pat G Spec'd Cam, NPP with 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers with High Flow Cats, Intake w/scoop, Ported Throttle Body, and Apex 1.25" Lowering Springs. J-Rod Built and Matt@FSP Tuned

05-12-2014, 06:07 PM	#22
Angrybird 12 7 year Cancer Survivor! Drives: 17 Cruze RS, 07 G6 GT, 99 Astro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 21,547	One reason I will never again lease a car, I did it once but I never felt the car was mine to do what I wanted to with it... __________________ Cancer's a bitch! Enjoy life while you can! LIVE, LOVE, DRIVE... The Bird is the word!

05-12-2014, 11:00 PM	#23
matt55 Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 1,069	The only slip fit is from cats to cat back , no slip fit after axle. Attached Images __________________ 10.8@130.8 610 whp, CAI, 2.5, E85, id850 on street tires.

05-10-2014, 09:02 AM	#15
hush Drives: 2013 Camaro SSRS L99 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sweden Posts: 23	I don't live in the US but have official retailers for GM/Chevy/Hummer etc where we lease cars. I would strongly recommend not modifying your car original parts. We did that to a Hummer H3 and they wont take it back if you cant restore it to original cus they cant vouch for the next customer that your job is properly done and could mean big repair bills for Hummer in the end. Its in the contract aswell. So we had to buy the car out and then sell it ourselves which was a pain in the a$$. I took my exhaust off of the Camaro and bought a SW instead so that i can restore it at the end of the lease period. I dont dare making permanent mods to it.

05-13-2014, 07:20 AM	#25
Denis Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Yorktown Heights, NY Posts: 7,695 View My Garage	honestly i wouldnt cut up the stock exhaust on a leased car. buy a cat-back and set the OE exhaust aside. when its time to turn the car in, put the OE exhaust back on. easy day. no cutting or worrying. __________________

05-15-2014, 02:56 AM	#27
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	the stock exhaust is one piece from cats back. no slip fit. That pic is from a auto. Here is the manual exhaust. I would not cut the stock exhaust. They may not catch it but if they do it will cost you around $2000 to replaces it. If you want to do a muffler delete get a take off stock exhaust and keep yours in tacked so you can just replace it. Im near Buffalo NY. probably too far for you but $100 and you pick it up and its yours. it has 6000 miles on it. Its already cut for the muffler delete. I bought a cat back and no longer need it. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

05-15-2014, 05:50 AM	#28
Mark Myles Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IBM / Silver Stripes Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northeast Michigan Posts: 601	If you had to lease it and you only have a $200 budget for exhaust, I personally don't believe you should do anything to the car. M