06-30-2014, 05:18 PM | #15 |
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So, Z-man....Bummer if that was your "home-track" and you're not happy with the pavement....Now what?...lol....
BTW, in days gone by I have heard that the inability to make adjustments on the suspension may be a negative on the car....just wondering....Good luck.... |
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Seems like a driver mod is required in this scenario.
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I'm screwed and I'm really unhappy. But there is nothing I can do about it, though I've tried for years as an advocate and ambassador for the local track. It's currently leased by someone who just doesn't give a crap about it, and it's owned by a private equity group who got saddled with it in 2007. It's an asset they simply plan to milk until it literally crumbles to pieces (happening now). The B and C configs are (were) the most technically challenging of any track in the USA (I'd argue). Ex F1 driver Brain Redman consulted on the design of the top half which is now not used due to condition. I've bitched about the track surface for years, but now the bumps are far worse than they have ever been. Think frost heaves, or whoop de doos...lol. Others bailed on the track years ago, but now even I have to finally say hasta la vista MF's! Suspension adjustment is well understood by few people, Chevy did the best thing by tuning it to smooth tracks. It was awesome on smooth Thunderhill, very confidence inspiring. Bumpy track, it feels like you are going to break something, put a strut through a shock tower, whatever.
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06-30-2014, 05:45 PM | #18 |
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I went to Spring Mountain for the first time a little while ago....I think they have added a lot of new track fairly recently....Might be worth another look....
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06-30-2014, 05:51 PM | #19 |
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Big deal. F1 teams spend 2 million to build the car and 300 million in yearly R and D. Guess what? They lose every 2 weeks. So it's ok to lose out here.
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06-30-2014, 06:11 PM | #21 |
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There is a big difference between someone running flat out, and preseving your car so you can drive it home. That track surface is hammered, I would have just left after I saw the surface. In any case these kind of events are just normal guys running their cars for fun. Each has a comfort level of how hard they want to push it. I have been to the track and ran faster than many cars that should have smoked me. Did I wax them, no I had less to risk and more comfortable threshold.
This thread reads like..... Dude I smoked a new Corvette in my 4 cylinder S10 with a K&N. Umm you do realize was busy reading a map? |
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Stiff suspension = bad for rough pavement (and kidneys! lol)
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06-30-2014, 06:13 PM | #23 |
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I don't know if to believe those times. They can't even spell a Camaro. How could they operate a timing system.
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FRS/BRZ are light, quick and good in the corners. And with a good driver are something to be watched.
I've auto crossed with a kid and his brand new FRS, the car was on point, the kid was meh, though the car pulled him through the course with some good times And as for the spelling generally they use what you put on the sheet when you sign up, so maybe that Chev Camero owner on the bottom misspelled it.
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06-30-2014, 06:57 PM | #27 |
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The first time I track a car, or the first time I am on a new track, you could time me with a sun dial. Without all the facts, these comparisons do not mean anything.
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Look, tracking is all about fun and camaraderie. Everyone has a learning curve and that's that. Times improve as car control, confidence and consistency improve. Newbies are expected to be slow and trying to be fast before you've earned your skills only makes you slow Nothing better than a newbie who has left his ego at the gate and is ready to learn. Running Time Trials or Club Trials is something *some* drivers choose to do after they have earned competency and car control skills. TT/CT allows folks to channel the competitive juices in a direction that is far safer and far lower cost than door to door racing which is a whole other animal. Not all event hosts offer timed events. PS- I write the above for the benefit of folks thinking about going to the track, maybe for the first time, and worried that afterwards someone is going to post up "hey a Yugo smoked a Z/28 driver! What a loser!"...lol! It likely won;t happen and even if it does, who cares, and F'em! You were driving your car on a racetrack!
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