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Mike P · 07-16-2009, 01:09 PM

Magnacharger TVS 1900 definitely with a good tune.....
Plenty of pulley options.......

(If you're really daring I guess get the 2300)

http://www.forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=7641

http://www.forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=5364

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*radz28* · 07-16-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike P

Magnacharger TVS 1900 definitely with a good tune.....
Plenty of pulley options.......

(If you're really daring I guess get the 2300)

http://www.forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=7641

http://www.forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=5364

...

Brian @ Magnuson said there aren't plans for the 1900 back a little while ago because everyone was droolling all over the 2300. Still - that 1900 is a bad
"little" blower. There's definately room to grow with both.

CamaroScotty · 07-16-2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hennessey Performance

All the products mentioned are good and some have pros and cons over the others. So far we have sold over 20 Magnuson kits on the new Camaro while installing over 10 of them. And I can say that the quality, power, look, ease of installation along with reliability is the best our company has experienced.

We use and sell all of the major blowers mentioned. You wont go wrong with any of them. However, we have been extremely impressed with Magnuson in every way.

I vote Hennessey.

wavrun2000 · 07-16-2009, 03:02 PM

I vote Magna charger because I am more of a roots blower or twin screw blower fan (blower whine). We just need Kenne Bell and Whipple to make a kit.

WeeZee · 07-20-2009, 07:48 AM

Procharger #1 hands down. Excellent power great customer service and top notch installation instructions. Techno and Hennessey got lost in the average guy buying one with there rediculious prices. Vortech #2 & Maggie #3

WeeZee · 07-20-2009, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavrun2000

I vote Magna charger because I am more of a roots blower or twin screw blower fan (blower whine). We just need Kenne Bell and Whipple to make a kit.

Whipple will have 2 kits by the end of summer, KenneBell has 2 kits on the way as well. Your whine will be avaliable real soon

carguy · 07-21-2009, 07:20 AM

Here is my Vote...Installation being done as we speak.....
I am putting my Money where my mouth is ...."so to speak"

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03ss · 07-27-2009, 10:02 PM

Here Are a few observations I have on the different kits.
Hennessey(MagnaCharger) – Nice stock power gains and quality looking finish and fairly straight forward install. On the other hand it seems like it will be power limited by the single size blower and the capacity of the air to water cooler cooling the air at elevated boost levels. Can really upgrade to a better as all integrally designed. Is 600 RWHP at 15 psi good when at only 6 psi you have 500? Seems like it might be reaching limits.
Vortech- Bracket will accommodate upgraded superchargers, base kit already includes large air to air intercooler, and upgraded 10-rib belt setup as well as a air intake to draw in cooler air. The intercooler also has the ability to be replaced for extreme power levels. So far it looks like the Vortech kit will be the best performer out of the box and as far as upgradeability to as much power as you want. Although, it hasn’t been released yet and only time will tell. Sounds like they are putting a good amount of care into the standard kit with upgradeability in mind. Definitely like how they will be having an air intake that isn't just slapping a filter on over the header like procharger.
Procharger-Says now available and Shipping but haven’t actually heard much about these. Has anyone actually got one shipped out yet. Looks it will be a good standard kit but as far as upgrading it will require a deal of new components and more involved, such as larger intercooler, head unit (assuming the bracket supports it), new crank and supercharger pulleys with more ribs on the belt, and custom air intake so you aren’t sucking in hot exhaust manifold air. (maybe the vortech one will fit?) Curious if anyone has actually received and installed one of these and how much work the installation was.
Techco – I really haven’t heard much of anything in detail on the techco so I cant really comment either way.
Think it will be worth waiting to see all the options come out and how they truly stack up. I wonder if there will be a heads up magazine test comparing them all. But then again how do you really evenly compare them all. Assuming all of these kit are priced within a 1000 dollars on one another I have high hopes for the Vortech kit as being the BEST VALUE KIT.

Any body know what the different tuning options will be on these different kits and how good the standard tunes will be. While I haven’t heard much either way regarding the quality of the Magnacharger or Vortech tunes I have seen most guys who buy procharger’s are always having a shop install and custom dyno tune the car instead of just using the supplied tune. Also makes me wonder how many procharger kits are actually install yourself friendly. Interested in hearing from others who have experienced installing the magnachargers.

-J

hot ss · 07-27-2009, 10:49 PM

these are going on stock internals. the maggie and the rest have the ability to destroy your stock motors if overboosted and/or badly tuned. how much do you need? gotta love cast eutectic.

gotpball44 · 07-27-2009, 11:18 PM

the techco comes with the full tuning, no need to go to a shop and dyno tune it.

SoloSK71 · 07-28-2009, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radz282003

So much for that MM&FF article I'm being toiling over regarding these types of SCs. Are these cars running different long blocks, or just with supporting fuel/ignition upgrades? I'd like to know so I can start planning how I'm going to get 600 RWHP with a SC that has a CARB number. If it's only a pulley and some fine tuning away, I'm there

S/C, headers, CAI, fuel pump and a tune and you are going to be very close to that mark.

I would guess you will easily get 200+ rwhp out of the above kit, perhaps more. Hennessey states 602hp which I am guessing is rwhp.

- SK

07-16-2009, 01:09 PM	#29
Mike P Drives: 2008 Pontiac G8 GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Coleman, MI Posts: 27	Magnacharger TVS 1900 definitely with a good tune..... Plenty of pulley options....... (If you're really daring I guess get the 2300) http://www.forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=7641 http://www.forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=5364 ... __________________ 222/230 .597/.600 114+4 EPS Cam, Vector Motorsports ECM/TCM Tune, Roto-Fab CAI, HSRK, Yank 3200 Torque Converter, Transmission Cooler, Kooks 1 3/4" LT Headers, high flow cats, stock mufflers, Billet Prototypes Catch Can, UD Pulley, Ported Intake Manifold, Spohn Trailing Arms 391 RWHP & 356 RWTQ (VMS Mustang Dyno & Bad DA Day) Best Time: 12.517 @ 115.02mph w/ 1.97 60' time - (on stock 18" AS Tires)

07-20-2009, 07:48 AM	#33
WeeZee Drives: SuperSport's Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 382	Procharger #1 hands down. Excellent power great customer service and top notch installation instructions. Techno and Hennessey got lost in the average guy buying one with there rediculious prices. Vortech #2 & Maggie #3 __________________ 2002 Chevy CamaroSS MN6 '08 Chevy TBSS AWD "DD" Plans : 2013 CamaroSS 1LE

07-21-2009, 07:20 AM	#35
carguy Carguy Drives: 57Chevy,67,80,2@10's camaro's,04SSR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Freeport,IL Posts: 544	Here is my Vote...Installation being done as we speak..... I am putting my Money where my mouth is ...."so to speak" __________________ 2010 SS/RS LS3, 21" Rims, SLP lowering Kit & sway bars, TVS2300, Hennesy CAI, Kooks LT Headrers & Cats, Corsa Exhaust, RIP Shift ST shifter, SLP Hood & Spoiler, Slp Black out package - Grill SS & Rear SS Emblems, ADM Dual Fuel Pump , 3.6 upper Pulley, 10% overdriven Innovators West Crank Pulley& Pin Kit. .................................................. ..............................

07-27-2009, 10:02 PM	#36
03ss Drives: 03' Silverado SS/ TBSS 06' Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New York Posts: 64	Here Are a few observations I have on the different kits. Hennessey(MagnaCharger) – Nice stock power gains and quality looking finish and fairly straight forward install. On the other hand it seems like it will be power limited by the single size blower and the capacity of the air to water cooler cooling the air at elevated boost levels. Can really upgrade to a better as all integrally designed. Is 600 RWHP at 15 psi good when at only 6 psi you have 500? Seems like it might be reaching limits. Vortech- Bracket will accommodate upgraded superchargers, base kit already includes large air to air intercooler, and upgraded 10-rib belt setup as well as a air intake to draw in cooler air. The intercooler also has the ability to be replaced for extreme power levels. So far it looks like the Vortech kit will be the best performer out of the box and as far as upgradeability to as much power as you want. Although, it hasn’t been released yet and only time will tell. Sounds like they are putting a good amount of care into the standard kit with upgradeability in mind. Definitely like how they will be having an air intake that isn't just slapping a filter on over the header like procharger. Procharger-Says now available and Shipping but haven’t actually heard much about these. Has anyone actually got one shipped out yet. Looks it will be a good standard kit but as far as upgrading it will require a deal of new components and more involved, such as larger intercooler, head unit (assuming the bracket supports it), new crank and supercharger pulleys with more ribs on the belt, and custom air intake so you aren’t sucking in hot exhaust manifold air. (maybe the vortech one will fit?) Curious if anyone has actually received and installed one of these and how much work the installation was. Techco – I really haven’t heard much of anything in detail on the techco so I cant really comment either way. Think it will be worth waiting to see all the options come out and how they truly stack up. I wonder if there will be a heads up magazine test comparing them all. But then again how do you really evenly compare them all. Assuming all of these kit are priced within a 1000 dollars on one another I have high hopes for the Vortech kit as being the BEST VALUE KIT. Any body know what the different tuning options will be on these different kits and how good the standard tunes will be. While I haven’t heard much either way regarding the quality of the Magnacharger or Vortech tunes I have seen most guys who buy procharger’s are always having a shop install and custom dyno tune the car instead of just using the supplied tune. Also makes me wonder how many procharger kits are actually install yourself friendly. Interested in hearing from others who have experienced installing the magnachargers. -J __________________ 03' Silverado SS

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07-16-2009, 03:02 PM	#32
wavrun2000 o come on Drives: 06 GTO Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Naples FL Posts: 437	I vote Magna charger because I am more of a roots blower or twin screw blower fan (blower whine). We just need Kenne Bell and Whipple to make a kit.

07-27-2009, 10:49 PM	#37
hot ss Drives: aqua 2ss l99 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,215	these are going on stock internals. the maggie and the rest have the ability to destroy your stock motors if overboosted and/or badly tuned. how much do you need? gotta love cast eutectic.

07-27-2009, 11:18 PM	#38
gotpball44 Boost Is Your Friend Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 1SS Camaro Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: La Mirada CA Posts: 1,255 View My Garage	the techco comes with the full tuning, no need to go to a shop and dyno tune it.