'10 SS VS '10 GT500

[Lee9710]

Originally Posted by Black GT

When you can figure that out than let me know how a Camaro SS with 110 more HP can barely beat a Mustang GT.

Well.......I have been beating '10 GTs by 4 car lengths. How is that barely winning? .5 secs is a huge gap in a drag race my friend.

[MuscleCarz]

Originally Posted by aborrego

a "stock" GT500 in My opinion is Shelby has to buy a Ford Mustang and add Mods to make it a Shelby GT500. If it would be fair that let one of the Chevy Racing Companies do the same and call it a Stock Z28 and see that "stock" GT500 in its Mirrors. but just my opinion.

They could call it what ever the wanted, but I'm pretty sure it would have a hard time taking a Cobra Jet.

[Ninjak]

Originally Posted by GEN-IV

There's no doubt that the GT500 is a great car, but is Camaro5.com the place for a Mustang history lesson?

Its about sharing knowledge. When we(mustang knowledge guys/gals) see posts like these:

Originally Posted by aborrego

a "stock" GT500 in My opinion is Shelby has to buy a Ford Mustang and add Mods to make it a Shelby GT500. If it would be fair that let one of the Chevy Racing Companies do the same and call it a Stock Z28 and see that "stock" GT500 in its Mirrors. but just my opinion.

They need to be corrected with the actual FACTS.

I am sure if you were on a Mustang site and someone said "Camaro's are built on MonteCarlo SS frame's bought by Hennessey then moved to Canada", you could not hit the reply button fast enough. Car enthusiast share knowledge. Correct knowledge. Does not matter what the base car of the site is, its all about people discussion what they enjoy. Cars.

Now if people just want to have a site where their car can actually drive on water and turn lead into gold.....well.....that's not a real car enthusiast site.

[ssump29]

Please let this silly discussion die. It's a Super muscle car vs a Muscle car what do you think will happen. If anything it just lets you know the SS stock is nothing to mess with it when its keeping up with a stock GT500.

Say what you will about driver error and tires, facts remain both are stock and how many people out there racing are all gonna launch perfectly and get the best results each time out. the answer is not many maybe 1%, so this is a great representation of two bone stock cars with your average driver which more times then not you will see driving these cars.

End of discussion.

[Ninjak]

Originally Posted by ssump29

Please let this silly discussion die. It's a Super muscle car vs a Muscle car what do you think will happen. If anything it just lets you know the SS stock is nothing to mess with it when its keeping up with a stock GT500.

Say what you will about driver error and tires, facts remain both are stock and how many people out there racing are all gonna launch perfectly and get the best results each time out. the answer is not many maybe 1%, so this is a great representation of two bone stock cars with your average driver which more times then not you will see driving these cars.

End of discussion.

Noooot really. Because you can get two competent drivers, who can launch, shift, then the gap is much much bigger. The simple fact is that the Camaro stock is a 12.9(best)~13.3 car. The Gt500 is a 12.4~12.6 Car. That's not "keeping up" by any stretch of the imagination. You can skew it by saying drivers, but those are bad drivers. There are good drivers to.

Heck I saw a SS do high 14's and a 15 the other day. Is that a factual representation of what the car can actually do stock ?? No. It's not. So getting a Car mag to drive a car, with 2.0+ 60ft times, and go Wow ! The Gt500 is slow.....is not accurate. That's all people are trying to say.

But I will agree with its truly not a fair comparison. But for some reason it keeps popping up.

[carfansince73]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Fixed that for you.

I agree Mustangs look great, just not AS great.

[ssump29]

Originally Posted by Ninjak

Noooot really. Because you can get two competent drivers, who can launch, shift, then the gap is much much bigger. The simple fact is that the Camaro stock is a 12.9(best)~13.3 car. The Gt500 is a 12.4~12.6 Car. That's not "keeping up" by any stretch of the imagination. You can skew it by saying drivers, but those are bad drivers. There are good drivers to.

Heck I saw a SS do high 14's and a 15 the other day. Is that a factual representation of what the car can actually do stock ?? No. It's not. So getting a Car mag to drive a car, with 2.0+ 60ft times, and go Wow ! The Gt500 is slow.....is not accurate. That's all people are trying to say.

But I will agree with its truly not a fair comparison. But for some reason it keeps popping up.

I understand everything you said and you pretty much with your example agreed with me. You proved my point most people driving these cars aren't gonna get the results that they maybe should get and more times then not you aren't gonna have great drivers. So all it means is that you can't keep taking the one or two drivers who can achieve the best and then stack these cars up because you will have people in these GT500 going high 13's and into 14 because they just aren't pro drivers. And more then not like I said before thats the kind of drivers you will get. so whats the fuss about?

[Mike P]

All that Camaro needs is a tune & it would be beating that Mustang GT 500. If you added a cai, headers, and a cam, it would be spankin' it.....

Originally Posted by CHVY4LF

[ironpeddler]

Originally Posted by Mike P

All that Camaro needs is a tune & it would be beating that Mustang GT 500. If you added a cai, headers, and a cam, it would be spankin' it.....

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by ironpeddler

What's wrong?



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[ssump29]

Originally Posted by Mike P

What's wrong?



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The purpose of this is bone stock vs bone stock. Because if u start talking mod for mod, you still are in the same position. Not fair to add a mod to one and not to the other and then compare them. That's what is wrong.

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by ssump29

The purpose of this is bone stock vs bone stock. Because if u start talking mod for mod, you still are in the same position. Not fair to add a mod to one and not to the other and then compare them. That's what is wrong.

Mod for mod is fun too.......

2007 GT500 with a Hellion Power Systems Twin 61mm turbo system.
Video is compilation of dyno runs with and without the supercharger, ending in a 1,046 hp pull. Call Hellion Power Systems at 505-873-4670 to learn more about this system, and to get one for your GT500.

[MontyCarlo]

Originally Posted by Ninjak

Noooot really. Because you can get two competent drivers, who can launch, shift, then the gap is much much bigger. The simple fact is that the Camaro stock is a 12.9(best)~13.3 car. The Gt500 is a 12.4~12.6 Car. That's not "keeping up" by any stretch of the imagination. You can skew it by saying drivers, but those are bad drivers. There are good drivers to.

Heck I saw a SS do high 14's and a 15 the other day. Is that a factual representation of what the car can actually do stock ?? No. It's not. So getting a Car mag to drive a car, with 2.0+ 60ft times, and go Wow ! The Gt500 is slow.....is not accurate. That's all people are trying to say.

But I will agree with its truly not a fair comparison. But for some reason I am compelled to talk about Mustangs on a Camaro forum all the friggin time instead of letting the argument die.

Fixed that for ya.

[KarFan]

Well apparently this race was so good we needed 3 threads to cover it.

Bottom line: That was a good race between two cars on that day with those drivers on that track; regardless of power and price. The favored more powerful and more expensive vehicle won.

The coulda, woulda, and shoulda crowd on either side of auto allegiance need to realize that races like this will happen and further proves that when it comes to racing the most important mod is always the driver.