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Old 09-18-2017, 06:56 PM   #4579
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Not that I don't agree with you, but my take is that they sell b/c they sit up higher, and that higher feeling, combined with the SUV-ish nature of a small CUV makes them feel roomier than a sedan, even if they aren't. The height makes them "easier" to do things like put your kids in the seats, or load/unload groceries. I'd rather drive a car, but I don't see the CUV favor going away anytime soon. Most people would rather have the above, and trade off the small MPG hit that a sedan would give them.
Maybe thats why I don't get it. I like to sit low.
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:54 PM   #4580
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Old 09-19-2017, 03:00 PM   #4581
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http://www.carscoops.com/2017/09/ope...ntent=Netvibes

Obviously Opel's no longer a GM brand, but GM still builds this car as a Buick in China, and we no longer have a compact Buick in North America, and taking in mind current trends, a hatchback is kinda like a small crossover...
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Old 09-19-2017, 07:56 PM   #4582
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Obviously Opel's no longer a GM brand, but GM still builds this car as a Buick in China, and we no longer have a compact Buick in North America, and taking in mind current trends, a hatchback is kinda like a small crossover...
1 + 1 = 11, right?
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Old 09-19-2017, 08:28 PM   #4583
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1 + 1 = 11, right?
Not at all. Just suggesting it. If GM thinks they can market a station wagon as a crossover, maybe they can pull off the same with a hatchback.
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:29 PM   #4584
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Obviously Opel's no longer a GM brand, but GM still builds this car as a Buick in China, and we no longer have a compact Buick in North America, and taking in mind current trends, a hatchback is kinda like a small crossover...
It would be great to once again see a sports compact from GM.
Forget Pontiac, lets bring back SATURN.
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:30 PM   #4585
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Not at all. Just suggesting it. If GM thinks they can market a station wagon as a crossover, maybe they can pull off the same with a hatchback.
Well ... they are more or less pretending that the hatchback Bolt is a crossover.
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:34 PM   #4586
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It would be great to once again see a sports compact from GM.
Forget Pontiac, lets bring back SATURN.
2nd gen Saturn Astra?
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:46 PM   #4587
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Speaking of Bolt...

There is zero information about the 2018 model. I believe at this point, the order guides for every other GM product is available.

Curious to see what GM has cooking for it.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:11 PM   #4588
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Old 09-22-2017, 12:22 PM   #4589
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Is this thing sharing platforms with Equinox?
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Old 09-22-2017, 12:38 PM   #4590
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According to the program code, oddly enough it's E2XX (Malibu, Regal Sportback/Insignia Grand Sport/ZB Commodore).
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Old 09-22-2017, 12:50 PM   #4591
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According to the program code, oddly enough it's E2XX (Malibu, Regal Sportback/Insignia Grand Sport/ZB Commodore).
While the Equinox is on the smaller D2XX used by the Cruze and Volt (among others).

Speaking of the Equinox, back with that strike at CAMI ... since its the secondary plant for building them (the other is in Mexico ... which is a big part of why the workers are striking), GM can probably wait things out for quite a while.
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Old 09-22-2017, 01:23 PM   #4592
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In my experience, the trucks made in Mexico have more rattles and build quality issues than the American, and certainly more than the Canadian. I wished GM would build all their cars in Canada, they seem to be the only ones that care about the quality of their work.
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