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Old 10-06-2011, 12:12 AM   #239
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While I'm not confirming or denying...........I have a few thoughts.......

to a few: "Oh ye of little faith -- have I led you wrong yet?"


to another few: $48K? you can buy one for $48K at www.notgonnahappen.com
(sorry, Peter --I know that's your line) - but I've said it dozens of times that there's no way a ZL1 will be 48K with the many features that are standard coupled with world-class performance....
Remember: The U.S. government is raising CAFE - not lowering it - and that will necessarily price V8s above where they used to be.........sorry, but that's the way things work.....if you don't like those rules, you need to vote in the coming elections........


Lastly: IT'S A GREAT TIME TO BE A CAMARO ENTHUSIAST!!!

We (that's you and me) have waited for the 5th gen......we waited and we won......and it keeps getting better!

Thank you most sincerely to those who have 'kept the faith' --

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Old 10-06-2011, 12:24 AM   #240
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I just wonder what the lap time would have been with an automatic .
When we first heard about the ZL1 I was guessing around 49k, but it looks like
that aint gonna happen. Figuring around 52k+ for the base price then adding
on options could add as much as 4k or more then tax. Good thing I started
saving earlier this year, almost have the house paid off, and have my other
two cars paid off in full. Ok I'm ready gulp whats the price going to be?
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:56 AM   #241
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Man, the ZL1 is a total beast…

Outstanding work GM!!!
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:06 AM   #242
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:19 AM   #243
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Still can't believe it will be offered in auto.
I can't believe you care. Some people hurt or lost their left leg and are still as much of an enthusiast as you. Some soldiers who defended your life and lost a leg might want to enjoy the luxury of having a ZL1. Or anyone born with a weak right leg or developed issues. The original ZL1 came with an auto option why shouldn't this one if you don't care about others who aren't able to

It is like when people complain about V6s. Without v6 sales the v8 wouldn't here

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Old 10-06-2011, 02:12 AM   #244
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I can't believe you care. Some people hurt or lost their left leg and are still as much of an enthusiast as you. Some soldiers who defended your life and lost a leg might want to enjoy the luxury of having a ZL1. Or anyone born with a weak right leg or developed issues. The original ZL1 came with an auto option why shouldn't this one if you don't care about others who aren't able to

It is like when people complain about V6s. Without v6 sales the v8 wouldn't here

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I think that comment was meant to be positive, not negative, like hes excited to have that option. That's the feeling I got anyway.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:21 AM   #245
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I just wonder what the lap time would have been with an automatic .
When we first heard about the ZL1 I was guessing around 49k, but it looks like
that aint gonna happen. Figuring around 52k+ for the base price then adding
on options could add as much as 4k or more then tax. Good thing I started
saving earlier this year, almost have the house paid off, and have my other
two cars paid off in full. Ok I'm ready gulp whats the price going to be?
I thought this time was turned in the automatic?
Isn't this the ring car?
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._06.html#photo
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:37 AM   #246
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Congratulations - GM's ZL1 team.

I'm impressed.

You know we need those 1/4 and 0-60 times.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:29 AM   #247
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Price

That is an amazing time but there's no way the ZL1 will be priced at $48K now (not that I wouldn't want it to be). The 69 ZL1 was a $4,160 option ($25K option adjusted for inflation). With the proven performance you get I don't think GM will have any problems selling these for $55-60K including destination and GG tax. That does get close to a no options added CTS-V ($64.5K) and it's a little over a GT500 ($53.6K with SVT performance package) but it's faster. Unfortunately I think dealers will be able to sell them for over MSRP for the first year at least because of demand. People are paying on average $1K over sticker for 2012 GT500s which would put one with options closer to $55K out the door if you were to buy it today (check out www.truecar.com if you don't believe me). On the plus side I think the base ZL1 will have a lot of standard features just like the CTS-V and the options list will be very sparse (likely just sunroof, automatic, Recaro seats?). The ZL1 is a crazy faster car that will be an amazing value for performance and anyone who can afford it is a luckily individual. However, I'm personally good with my $34K 2012 2SS that I can slowly mod to my liking but kudos to GM for even building a car like the ZL1.

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Old 10-06-2011, 03:33 AM   #248
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:44 AM   #249
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:14 AM   #250
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This is awesome news for GM. I'd like to know what tires were used and if this indeed is a production ZL1. My prediction for 0-60 is 3.6 seconds.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:07 AM   #251
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GM North American President Mark Reuss has confirmed that the ZL1 laps the Nurburgring in 7:41.27
SHAKE AND BAKE!!!!!!!!!

Now I can tell my wife "but it lapped The Ring" in 7:41" and she'll be like "why didn't you say so, sure we have four little kids and it snows a lot here in the Northeast during the winter, but since it can lap Th Ring in a time like that, lets trade in the minivan and get two".....

Way to go GM!!!
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:44 AM   #252
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