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driser · 10-01-2013, 05:48 PM

Just finished up a track weekend at Road Atlanta with Hawk DTC 30 pads (front)... much improved braking. No significant decrease in braking from the start of the sessions to the end (30 minutes).

Now it is time to swap back to the Hawk street pad, so looking for any advice from those that are pros at this. Hoping to try it without removing the calipers, so if someone has been doing this, please give me some insight.

This was also the first time out with the Michelin Super Sports....what a great tire. Highly recommend for anyone who is looking for a street/track tire. Expensive, but worth every penny coming down the hill to turn 12!

Thanks

JOHNSONROD · 10-01-2013, 11:35 PM

its really easy. just take your time. after the first time you can do it in a few minutes a wheel. who was the group that you ran with at rd atlanta? im hoping to go with nasa in december.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=diy+brake+pad

driser · 10-02-2013, 06:24 AM

Chin motorsports is the group I run with.

Synner · 10-02-2013, 11:57 AM

pop the pins out
remove pad
push pistons back in slightly if necessary
Lube back of pad and insert pad
Lube pins and insert pins
clean rotor/pad with brake cleaner anywhere you, your fingers, or anything else touched braking surface

If you weren't drinking beer through each step you're doing it wrong.

Orange Crush 1LE · 10-02-2013, 12:02 PM

I had understood that it's not a good idea to swap pad types without turning the rotors, because the residual material from the previous pad is still on the disk and prevents proper braking with the new pad.

But I've also heard that you can do just what you're doing- swap in track pads at the track, then swap back.

Are there any brake gurus out there that could shed some light on which is true?

Thanks

Synner · 10-02-2013, 12:07 PM

Typically if you stick with the same manufacturer their compounds are compatible but it doesn't hurt to ask before purchasing. But yes pad residue from an old pad can cause overheating and poor performance leading to gunked up everything with embedded pad/rotor material.

Synner · 10-02-2013, 12:17 PM

...and you may need to re-bed the pads to the rotors and go through the break in procedure again before the next track day to scrub the rotor and have it ready for action.

SPCBA · 10-02-2013, 02:15 PM

Always good to brake cleaner and steal wool or sand paper off the old pad and do a proper bed in process on new pads.

driser · 10-02-2013, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synner

pop the pins out
remove pad
push pistons back in slightly if necessary
Lube back of pad and insert pad
Lube pins and insert pins
clean rotor/pad with brake cleaner anywhere you, your fingers, or anything else touched braking surface

If you weren't drinking beer through each step you're doing it wrong.

Thanks for all of the info...do you have a recomendation for the lube?

So Cal Camaro · 10-02-2013, 04:24 PM

Outside of being a little noisy, I run my track pads all the time and I believe Jordan from JDP runs the same pad that you are and he runs his on both the street/track.

TBone · 10-02-2013, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driser

Thanks for all of the info...do you have a recomendation for the lube?

YES, Permatex® CeramicExtreme Brake PartsLubricant..
http://www.permatex.com/products-2/p...bricant-detail

Higher temps and it works well for both the street and track.

You can find it on the shelf at Advanced Auto.

T.

driser · 10-03-2013, 07:17 AM

Thanks.

Yea I can put up with the noise, but it is the dust on the new Forgelines (polished) that I can't handle. They cleaned up easy (thanks to Adams), but even short drives end up with too much dust.

Synner · 10-03-2013, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBone

YES, Permatex® CeramicExtreme Brake PartsLubricant..
http://www.permatex.com/products-2/p...bricant-detail

Higher temps and it works well for both the street and track.

You can find it on the shelf at Advanced Auto.

T.

Yup thats the best stuff I've ever found as well as longest lasting. Although whoever came up with the purple color should be shot.

So Cal Camaro · 10-03-2013, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driser

Thanks.

Yea I can put up with the noise, but it is the dust on the new Forgelines (polished) that I can't handle. They cleaned up easy (thanks to Adams), but even short drives end up with too much dust.

Yup, the dust is the other issue....I make sure my Forgeline's have a good layer of wax on them at all times....then just blow them off with air compressor.

10-01-2013, 05:48 PM	#1
driser Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Monroe, Georgia Posts: 717	brake pad swap Just finished up a track weekend at Road Atlanta with Hawk DTC 30 pads (front)... much improved braking. No significant decrease in braking from the start of the sessions to the end (30 minutes). Now it is time to swap back to the Hawk street pad, so looking for any advice from those that are pros at this. Hoping to try it without removing the calipers, so if someone has been doing this, please give me some insight. This was also the first time out with the Michelin Super Sports....what a great tire. Highly recommend for anyone who is looking for a street/track tire. Expensive, but worth every penny coming down the hill to turn 12! Thanks

10-02-2013, 12:02 PM	#5
Orange Crush 1LE Drives: 2022 SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,086	I had understood that it's not a good idea to swap pad types without turning the rotors, because the residual material from the previous pad is still on the disk and prevents proper braking with the new pad. But I've also heard that you can do just what you're doing- swap in track pads at the track, then swap back. Are there any brake gurus out there that could shed some light on which is true? Thanks __________________ Sold but not forgotten! Pedders Supercar Coilovers, 32mm rear sway bar,bushings; APR wing and splitter Forged 416 road course stroker. 514 RWHP, 497 RW Ft-Lb 1 Camaro, 75 Vipers: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393697 Buttonwillow Raceway: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389086

10-02-2013, 02:15 PM	#8
SPCBA Drives: pleather and Chiclets Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: a line somwhere Posts: 4,206 View My Garage	Always good to brake cleaner and steal wool or sand paper off the old pad and do a proper bed in process on new pads. __________________ the power by www.cunningham-motorsports.com the brakes by www.RacingBrake.com

10-02-2013, 04:24 PM	#10
So Cal Camaro So Cal Race Team Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny So Cal Posts: 3,584	Outside of being a little noisy, I run my track pads all the time and I believe Jordan from JDP runs the same pad that you are and he runs his on both the street/track. __________________

10-01-2013, 11:35 PM	#2
JOHNSONROD Drives: 62 Chevy & 2021 1SS/1LE manual Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 893	its really easy. just take your time. after the first time you can do it in a few minutes a wheel. who was the group that you ran with at rd atlanta? im hoping to go with nasa in december. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=diy+brake+pad

10-02-2013, 06:24 AM	#3
driser Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Monroe, Georgia Posts: 717	Chin motorsports is the group I run with.

10-02-2013, 11:57 AM	#4
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,545	pop the pins out remove pad push pistons back in slightly if necessary Lube back of pad and insert pad Lube pins and insert pins clean rotor/pad with brake cleaner anywhere you, your fingers, or anything else touched braking surface If you weren't drinking beer through each step you're doing it wrong.

10-02-2013, 12:07 PM	#6
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,545	Typically if you stick with the same manufacturer their compounds are compatible but it doesn't hurt to ask before purchasing. But yes pad residue from an old pad can cause overheating and poor performance leading to gunked up everything with embedded pad/rotor material.

10-02-2013, 12:17 PM	#7
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,545	...and you may need to re-bed the pads to the rotors and go through the break in procedure again before the next track day to scrub the rotor and have it ready for action.

10-03-2013, 07:17 AM	#12
driser Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Monroe, Georgia Posts: 717	Thanks. Yea I can put up with the noise, but it is the dust on the new Forgelines (polished) that I can't handle. They cleaned up easy (thanks to Adams), but even short drives end up with too much dust.