Throttle Response, Beyond Porting - Page 52

Duramacr1 · 03-07-2022, 05:51 PM

I got one of these a month and half ago and works great . It’s his 103mm TB. The relearn is easy and the TB is a beautiful piece. And it fit nice and flush with my MSD manifold . Also
Mike was very helpful on the phone and got me what I needed . I vouch for Soler . Good customer service and quick shipping .

70ls1nova · 03-10-2022, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSlow6

Any reason not to install while still breaking in the engine? Does the relearn procedure require high revs?

Same question here. I have a new 2ss with 100 miles on it. Is it okay to put this on now?

SOCAL.M6.ZLE · 03-10-2022, 08:34 AM

Hey Soler... any discount codes you can share for those who missed black friday?

SOCAL.M6.ZLE · 03-10-2022, 05:40 PM

Just ordered a 100mm

Can't to see some gains!

DeltaEliteMan · 03-10-2022, 05:46 PM

Just ordered the 91mm for my ZL1.
Hope it’s worth it.

70ls1nova · 03-15-2022, 07:44 AM

so, I started to install my roto fab yesterday and the mailman showed up while i was halfway thru... Brought me a box from soler performance. Nice piece.
attached is a side by side with the stock TB. So I figured may as well install them both at the same time. Ready to go for a relearn drive now!!

70ls1nova · 03-15-2022, 08:09 AM

So, I started it up after leaving the battery disconnected overnight. After about ten seconds, it run like shit and had a message the "engine power is reduced". I turned it off and after a short time started it again. It ran the 3 minutes like the instructions said and i shut it off. Waited one minute and started it again and it runs like shit and I keep getting "engine power reduced" message. Where should i start? Mike? You out there?
Thanks

Duramacr1 · 03-15-2022, 11:03 AM

Your supposed to let it idle for 3 minutes first. You said it runs like shit . Or did you mean it idles like shit . Mine did not do that at all but one time I forgot to do the relearn and it would miss just pass 5000 rpm. I brought it back home, disconnected the battery for 5 minutes , did the relearn and it ran fine after . Everytime you disconnect the battery you have to do the relearn.

70ls1nova · 03-15-2022, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duramacr1

Your supposed to let it idle for 3 minutes first. You said it runs like shit . Or did you mean it idles like shit . Mine did not do that at all but one time I forgot to do the relearn and it would miss just pass 5000 rpm. I brought it back home, disconnected the battery for 5 minutes , did the relearn and it ran fine after . Everytime you disconnect the battery you have to do the relearn.

Yeah, that would be IDLED like shit. And the message came up on the DIC about reduced power. So, should i just let it idle in reduced power mode and it will fix itself?

6spdhyperblue · 03-15-2022, 01:55 PM

Sounds like a leak somewhere. The tb is plugged in?

Did you unplug the maf

70ls1nova · 03-15-2022, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spdhyperblue

Sounds like a leak somewhere. The tb is plugged in?

Did you unplug the maf

Thanks for the reply. yeah, i unplugged the maf to install the roto fab and plugged it back in and locked the tab. I just went out and put the stock throttle body back on and it runs fine. Not sure where to go from here. Mike? I'm leaning toward trying the new TB since i let it idle twice for 3 minutes with the rotofab and stock TB. Now put the soler back on and try again. We'll see what happens. To recap, when the soler TB is on, it starts and idles kinda rough, (even sounds a little nastier in the garage) and will idle for 3 minutes. then i shut it off for one minute and restart per the instructions and it doesn't idle for 10 seconds and goes into the "reduced power" mode.

V8Addict · 03-16-2022, 06:18 AM

I suggest you call Mike and talk to him directly, instead of waiting for his help here. You can then tell him all the problems and whats going on after the installation. Pretty sure he can pinpoint the problem and come up with a cure.

70ls1nova · 03-17-2022, 10:07 AM

Yeah, he sent me a mailing label to return it. He's looking into it.

Ventmaster · 03-19-2022, 03:38 PM

As long as Mike may be monitoring our interaction here, I thought I'd ask a question I posed on a similar thread and got no response to. I do have to acknowledge the immediate opinion I got from another C6 member though, and it was much appreciated. Thank you hyperblue!
Anyhow, I was looking at the Soler website and saw they were describing the benefit of their transition adaptors- for example their 95mm to a 103mm MSD IM throat would help eliminate the "pressure drop" that results from a smaller opening intersecting a larger opening with fluid or air flow (the Bernoulli effect, right?).
The resulting venturi could create more turbulent flow, right Mike?
So (to get to my real question), even though I've bumped up to a 95mm TB that is not ported to a MSD IM with its 103mm throat that is also not ported, could I improve flow and/or air distribution? Thank you.

03-10-2022, 08:34 AM	#717
SOCAL.M6.ZLE Having FUN in the SUN... Drives: 2022 M6 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,056	Hey Soler... any discount codes you can share for those who missed black friday? __________________ 2022 M6 ZLE: Katech CNC Ported Blower + Ported Heads + 103mm TB + Oil Pump + C5R Chain + Valve Covers + Coil Relocation TSP VVT and DoD Delete Covers + LME Chain Guide + DSX Billet Lid + ATI Damper + 9.17" Lower + 2.4" Upper + MM Wild CC Coated ARH + AWE Touring + Magnaflow Center X + E85 + MSD Coils + Banks iDash + JMS Booster + Synergy Fender Tank ALL the RED Rear End BMR Goodies + JRE Terminator Cam Package + Remote Tuning and Moral Support from TED @ JRE BMR Motor Mounts + DMS Front HX + FIC 30's + APEX SM.10's + 305/345 R888R's = 770rwhp 785rwtq @E50 13.5psi

03-10-2022, 05:40 PM	#718
SOCAL.M6.ZLE Having FUN in the SUN... Drives: 2022 M6 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,056	Just ordered a 100mm Can't to see some gains! __________________ 2022 M6 ZLE: Katech CNC Ported Blower + Ported Heads + 103mm TB + Oil Pump + C5R Chain + Valve Covers + Coil Relocation TSP VVT and DoD Delete Covers + LME Chain Guide + DSX Billet Lid + ATI Damper + 9.17" Lower + 2.4" Upper + MM Wild CC Coated ARH + AWE Touring + Magnaflow Center X + E85 + MSD Coils + Banks iDash + JMS Booster + Synergy Fender Tank ALL the RED Rear End BMR Goodies + JRE Terminator Cam Package + Remote Tuning and Moral Support from TED @ JRE BMR Motor Mounts + DMS Front HX + FIC 30's + APEX SM.10's + 305/345 R888R's = 770rwhp 785rwtq @E50 13.5psi

03-15-2022, 07:44 AM	#720
70ls1nova Drives: 2022 Camaro, 2014 F150, G6, 70 Nova Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: PA Posts: 31	so, I started to install my roto fab yesterday and the mailman showed up while i was halfway thru... Brought me a box from soler performance. Nice piece. attached is a side by side with the stock TB. So I figured may as well install them both at the same time. Ready to go for a relearn drive now!! Attached Images

03-15-2022, 01:55 PM	#724
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,678	Sounds like a leak somewhere. The tb is plugged in? Did you unplug the maf __________________ ‘22 2SS 1LE M6 Summit White - RF, Flexfuel, LT2 intake, 95mm tb, ATI udp, VT ramair, full 28” dragpack - 11.68@122 ‘16 1SS M6 LT2 intake + boltons on DR 11.0@126+ (Sold)

03-16-2022, 06:18 AM	#726
V8Addict Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: So Calif Posts: 324	I suggest you call Mike and talk to him directly, instead of waiting for his help here. You can then tell him all the problems and whats going on after the installation. Pretty sure he can pinpoint the problem and come up with a cure. __________________ 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS, A8, NPP, MRC

03-07-2022, 05:51 PM	#715
Duramacr1 2Spdsy Drives: 2021 Camaro LT1 A10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mission hills Posts: 122	I got one of these a month and half ago and works great . It’s his 103mm TB. The relearn is easy and the TB is a beautiful piece. And it fit nice and flush with my MSD manifold . Also Mike was very helpful on the phone and got me what I needed . I vouch for Soler . Good customer service and quick shipping .

03-10-2022, 05:46 PM	#719
DeltaEliteMan Drives: 2018 ZL1 Nightfall Grey Vert Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: NY Posts: 52	Just ordered the 91mm for my ZL1. Hope it’s worth it.

03-15-2022, 08:09 AM	#721
70ls1nova Drives: 2022 Camaro, 2014 F150, G6, 70 Nova Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: PA Posts: 31	So, I started it up after leaving the battery disconnected overnight. After about ten seconds, it run like shit and had a message the "engine power is reduced". I turned it off and after a short time started it again. It ran the 3 minutes like the instructions said and i shut it off. Waited one minute and started it again and it runs like shit and I keep getting "engine power reduced" message. Where should i start? Mike? You out there? Thanks

03-15-2022, 11:03 AM	#722
Duramacr1 2Spdsy Drives: 2021 Camaro LT1 A10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mission hills Posts: 122	Your supposed to let it idle for 3 minutes first. You said it runs like shit . Or did you mean it idles like shit . Mine did not do that at all but one time I forgot to do the relearn and it would miss just pass 5000 rpm. I brought it back home, disconnected the battery for 5 minutes , did the relearn and it ran fine after . Everytime you disconnect the battery you have to do the relearn.

03-17-2022, 10:07 AM	#727
70ls1nova Drives: 2022 Camaro, 2014 F150, G6, 70 Nova Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: PA Posts: 31	Yeah, he sent me a mailing label to return it. He's looking into it.

03-19-2022, 03:38 PM	#728
Ventmaster Drives: 2017 1SS 6spd Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 2,869	As long as Mike may be monitoring our interaction here, I thought I'd ask a question I posed on a similar thread and got no response to. I do have to acknowledge the immediate opinion I got from another C6 member though, and it was much appreciated. Thank you hyperblue! Anyhow, I was looking at the Soler website and saw they were describing the benefit of their transition adaptors- for example their 95mm to a 103mm MSD IM throat would help eliminate the "pressure drop" that results from a smaller opening intersecting a larger opening with fluid or air flow (the Bernoulli effect, right?). The resulting venturi could create more turbulent flow, right Mike? So (to get to my real question), even though I've bumped up to a 95mm TB that is not ported to a MSD IM with its 103mm throat that is also not ported, could I improve flow and/or air distribution? Thank you. Last edited by Ventmaster; 03-19-2022 at 05:26 PM.

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