NPP vs Borla Atak exhaust? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

shaggy2002 · 07-22-2013, 07:20 PM

I am new to this forum and maybe people here hate Borla, however I am confused why everyone puts the NPP on their 1LE instead of saving that money and putting an aftermarket exhaust.

Is the NPP really that awesome, or is there something I am missing?

Please don't flame me as I am new.

I was thinking of ordering a 2014 without the NPP and getting a borla atak system.

racerx1214 · 07-22-2013, 07:33 PM

NPP looks better, sounds better, you don't have to worry about fitment, and the idea of 2 exhausts in one is nice.

Also its $300 more.

Orange Crush 1LE · 07-22-2013, 07:34 PM

I'm glad you asked, because I have the same question. My 1LE came without the NPP (I didn't order, so I got what was on the lot).

I'm sure it's been hashed through a million times, but I'm trying to decide which exhaust to order. I'm looking for medium-loud, with little to no drone, LOL. I'm not running headers, and if I do, they'll be shorties with CARB approval, if they exist. There are three levels of Borla, I'm wondering which one would fit that bill.

aggieguy13 · 07-22-2013, 07:40 PM

Borla. all day. NPP is a good system. but Borla is just mean.

it depends if you like exhaust or if you love exhaust.....
me personally..... the NPP isnt loud enough. i had SLP Loudmouth 1 in my 02 SLP SS. and if you dont know. that is bassically just a 3.5" expansion tube. no baffling at all. even louder than cutouts.

but if you like your exhaust but want a wow factor at times. check out Noweeds. i am in the process of saving the $ for them to hold me off untill i have the money to do a full exhaust system headers and all.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=948855

willc1980 · 07-22-2013, 08:19 PM

i believe the new borla and corsa systems retain the NPP function, i cant find any other reason they would be 600 bucks more than their other systems

aggieguy13 · 07-22-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by willc1980

i believe the new borla and corsa systems retain the NPP function, i cant find any other reason they would be 600 bucks more than their other systems

no. make sure your looking at Cat-backs or Axle Backs. cat backs are usually about twice as much as the same axle back exhaust.

beany323 · 07-22-2013, 08:36 PM

true on aggieguy13 comment.

axle = 600 cat, 1100+

i have axle. love them. gl.

aggieguy13 · 07-22-2013, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beany323

true on aggieguy13 comment.

axle = 600 cat, 1100+

i have axle. love them. gl.

question.........
1LE runs willow faster wouldnt that make the first part of your sig invalid? not that i dont agree with you, and love the concept.

beany323 · 07-22-2013, 09:04 PM

that was based on.. cant recall time trials. it was on the lightning laps. sorry dont recall.

Virginia international raceway. (VIR)

i could find the post that would better explain and the 1le was, 3 seconds behind the gt500.

(its late so if i am mistaken, someone will correct me)

aggieguy13 · 07-22-2013, 09:10 PM

VIR- gt500- 3:00.6
1LE- 2:58.34
zl1-2:52.38
Zr1-1:45

beany323 · 07-22-2013, 09:16 PM

lol.. way for us to hijack a thread.. lol. sorry op.

i blame him.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=lightning+lap

aggieguy13 · 07-22-2013, 09:19 PM

psh..... were just bringing more attention to the post. were great publicist

willc1980 · 07-22-2013, 09:24 PM

1LE/ZL1 cat back ATAK for NPP $1832
http://www.borla.com/products /camaro_zl1_20122013_catback_exhaust_atak_part__140 495.html

Standard SS cat back ATAK $1470
http://www.borla.com/products/camaro...t__140356.html

$400 for quad tips and 1/4 bigger pipe?

aggieguy13 · 07-22-2013, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willc1980

1LE/ZL1 cat back ATAK for NPP $1832
http://www.borla.com/products /camaro_zl1_20122013_catback_exhaust_atak_part__140 495.html

Standard SS cat back ATAK $1470
http://www.borla.com/products/camaro...t__140356.html

$400 for quad tips and 1/4 bigger pipe?

atak sounds way better. and the mid pipes will flow better.

07-22-2013, 07:20 PM	#1
shaggy2002 Drives: 2013 VR 2SS w RS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 367	NPP vs Borla Atak exhaust? I am new to this forum and maybe people here hate Borla, however I am confused why everyone puts the NPP on their 1LE instead of saving that money and putting an aftermarket exhaust. Is the NPP really that awesome, or is there something I am missing? Please don't flame me as I am new. I was thinking of ordering a 2014 without the NPP and getting a borla atak system.

07-22-2013, 07:34 PM	#3
Orange Crush 1LE Drives: 2022 SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,086	I'm glad you asked, because I have the same question. My 1LE came without the NPP (I didn't order, so I got what was on the lot). I'm sure it's been hashed through a million times, but I'm trying to decide which exhaust to order. I'm looking for medium-loud, with little to no drone, LOL. I'm not running headers, and if I do, they'll be shorties with CARB approval, if they exist. There are three levels of Borla, I'm wondering which one would fit that bill. __________________ Sold but not forgotten! Pedders Supercar Coilovers, 32mm rear sway bar,bushings; APR wing and splitter Forged 416 road course stroker. 514 RWHP, 497 RW Ft-Lb 1 Camaro, 75 Vipers: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393697 Buttonwillow Raceway: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389086

07-22-2013, 08:36 PM	#7
beany323 Drives: Camaro 2SS /RS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern Cali. Posts: 1,566 View My Garage	true on aggieguy13 comment. axle = 600 cat, 1100+ i have axle. love them. gl. __________________ "The fact the GT500 can barely beat a $37k car with 200 less horsepower speaks volumes. There are about a million mods you can do to a LS3 to make a Camaro do the 1/4 faster then a GT500." (Vroom.) Updated w/ Willow Springs: 1. Nissan GTR Track Pack 1:19.6 2. Ducati 1198 S 1:19.7 3. Nissan GTR 1:20.3 4. Corvette Z06 1:20.4 5. Audi R8 V10 Plus 1:22.0 6. Ferrari 458 Italia 1:22.3 7. CAMARO SS 1LE 1:22.7 8. Shelby GT 500 1:23.5 9. Mustang Gt Track Pack 1:25.8

07-22-2013, 09:04 PM	#9
beany323 Drives: Camaro 2SS /RS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern Cali. Posts: 1,566 View My Garage	that was based on.. cant recall time trials. it was on the lightning laps. sorry dont recall. Virginia international raceway. (VIR) i could find the post that would better explain and the 1le was, 3 seconds behind the gt500. (its late so if i am mistaken, someone will correct me) __________________ "The fact the GT500 can barely beat a $37k car with 200 less horsepower speaks volumes. There are about a million mods you can do to a LS3 to make a Camaro do the 1/4 faster then a GT500." (Vroom.) Updated w/ Willow Springs: 1. Nissan GTR Track Pack 1:19.6 2. Ducati 1198 S 1:19.7 3. Nissan GTR 1:20.3 4. Corvette Z06 1:20.4 5. Audi R8 V10 Plus 1:22.0 6. Ferrari 458 Italia 1:22.3 7. CAMARO SS 1LE 1:22.7 8. Shelby GT 500 1:23.5 9. Mustang Gt Track Pack 1:25.8 Last edited by beany323; 07-22-2013 at 09:06 PM. Reason: old age.

07-22-2013, 09:10 PM	#10
aggieguy13 Drives: 2013 SS/RS VR 1LE Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: MCKINNEY,TX Posts: 1,278 View My Garage	VIR- gt500- 3:00.6 1LE- 2:58.34 zl1-2:52.38 Zr1-1:45 __________________ 2013 SS/RS 1LE VR-Backup System, SOLO Perforsance HF Cats, Muffler Delete, BBK Off-road X-pipe 2002 35th Aniversary SLP SS-Sold

07-22-2013, 07:33 PM	#2
racerx1214 Drives: 2018 SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 209	NPP looks better, sounds better, you don't have to worry about fitment, and the idea of 2 exhausts in one is nice. Also its $300 more.

07-22-2013, 08:19 PM	#5
willc1980 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Wyandotte, MI Posts: 157	i believe the new borla and corsa systems retain the NPP function, i cant find any other reason they would be 600 bucks more than their other systems

07-22-2013, 09:16 PM	#11
beany323 Drives: Camaro 2SS /RS/1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern Cali. Posts: 1,566 View My Garage	lol.. way for us to hijack a thread.. lol. sorry op. i blame him. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=lightning+lap __________________ "The fact the GT500 can barely beat a $37k car with 200 less horsepower speaks volumes. There are about a million mods you can do to a LS3 to make a Camaro do the 1/4 faster then a GT500." (Vroom.) Updated w/ Willow Springs: 1. Nissan GTR Track Pack 1:19.6 2. Ducati 1198 S 1:19.7 3. Nissan GTR 1:20.3 4. Corvette Z06 1:20.4 5. Audi R8 V10 Plus 1:22.0 6. Ferrari 458 Italia 1:22.3 7. CAMARO SS 1LE 1:22.7 8. Shelby GT 500 1:23.5 9. Mustang Gt Track Pack 1:25.8

07-22-2013, 09:19 PM	#12
aggieguy13 Drives: 2013 SS/RS VR 1LE Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: MCKINNEY,TX Posts: 1,278 View My Garage	psh..... were just bringing more attention to the post. were great publicist __________________ 2013 SS/RS 1LE VR-Backup System, SOLO Perforsance HF Cats, Muffler Delete, BBK Off-road X-pipe 2002 35th Aniversary SLP SS-Sold

07-22-2013, 09:24 PM	#13
willc1980 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Wyandotte, MI Posts: 157	1LE/ZL1 cat back ATAK for NPP $1832 http://www.borla.com/products /camaro_zl1_20122013_catback_exhaust_atak_part__140 495.html Standard SS cat back ATAK $1470 http://www.borla.com/products/camaro...t__140356.html $400 for quad tips and 1/4 bigger pipe?