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Shortbus · 05-27-2009, 08:14 PM

Ok, what's this all about on CNN.com. Is this rumor or are they seriously considering this?

"New government fuel economy regulations also face GM as it emerges from bankruptcy -- 39 miles per gallon for cars and 30 mpg for trucks by 2016. GM likes to brag about all the cars it makes that get 30 miles per gallon but it is still a long way from 39 mpg. It has already announced it is discontinuing its five high-performance models. Expect other high-horsepower models like Camaro to vanish as well.

Anyone for a four-cylinder Corvette?"

From:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/27/auto...ion=2009052717

chrisinlittlerock · 05-27-2009, 08:17 PM

Very sad if true

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nards444 · 05-27-2009, 08:17 PM

this has been well gone over. Its not just GM. And te 39 is an average not for every car. Gm is pretty close to that 39 average is right now. This is not new, what many you dont know is this, in the past car companies had to make so many V6's to the V8's they made, and this has been going on for a while, even during your beloved republican party.

Shortbus · 05-27-2009, 08:34 PM

I wasn't so much concerned with the mileage ratings as I was with the comment that they plan on killing off the Camaro.

Camaroyoung · 05-27-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nards444

this has been well gone over. Its not just GM. And te 39 is an average not for every car. Gm is pretty close to that 39 average is right now. This is not new, what many you dont know is this, in the past car companies had to make so many V6's to the V8's they made, and this has been going on for a while, even during your beloved republican party.

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Who said anything about "beloved republican party"? The V8 Camaro is close to 39? I plan on keeping my V8 Camaro for a long time. So if car companies HAD to make so many V6's to the V8's, what makes you think the car companies won't be forced to drop V8's period? I don't care which party is running the show, the government is not going to tell me what I have to drive!

2010SSRS · 05-27-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nards444

this has been well gone over. Its not just GM. And te 39 is an average not for every car. Gm is pretty close to that 39 average is right now. This is not new, what many you dont know is this, in the past car companies had to make so many V6's to the V8's they made, and this has been going on for a while, even during your beloved republican party.

actually, i believe it is PER car this time. unless the news was wrong a week or so ago, what made this announcement historic was that Obama changed the rules from "average" to "per car".

i coulda heard wrong, or my local news may have mis-spoke - wouldn't be the first time!

KJS · 05-27-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nards444

this has been well gone over. Its not just GM. And te 39 is an average not for every car. Gm is pretty close to that 39 average is right now. This is not new, what many you dont know is this, in the past car companies had to make so many V6's to the V8's they made, and this has been going on for a while, even during your beloved republican party.

Where did you get that GM was close to the 39 MPG corp avg right now ???? Do you realize that for an average like that GM would need a fleet of cars getting at least 50+ mpg ??

Shortbus · 05-27-2009, 08:46 PM

I'm pretty sure it was on the average. That's how Toyota is going to be able to keep making the Tundra. They have the Prius to help average out the fuel economy.

EMB135Driver · 05-27-2009, 08:47 PM

Who says a turbocharged or supercharged 4 cylinder won't happen. I think they need to put cars on diets too.

Captain Awesome · 05-27-2009, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMB135Driver

Who says a turbocharged or supercharged 4 cylinder won't happen. I think they need to put cars on diets too.

Turbos and Superchargers are expensive.
Diets are expensive.

As if cars weren't costly enough as it is... this is not good.

GrnMchin · 05-27-2009, 09:00 PM

With fuel prices rising and the demand for alternate fuel source being ever on the minds of the mass public I would expect to see more of this in the near future so get me while you can. And even though I would like to believe that the performance industry is the majority we are not. I real don't know what the future brings other then change.

songsj · 05-28-2009, 03:14 AM

I know this is just a reporters quote but it is getting scary.

From CNNFN website: GM Article:

It has already announced it is discontinuing its five high-performance models. Expect other high-horsepower models like Camaro to vanish as well.

My guess is they will build them through at least spring or mid summer of 2010 but after that it's anyone's guess.

*Mindz* · 05-28-2009, 03:20 AM

would you mind linking the source please? I'm interested to see what they have to say.

songsj · 05-28-2009, 03:23 AM

Here is a link to the article.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/27/auto...ion=2009052717

They mention the Camaro about 2/3 of the way down the page.

05-27-2009, 08:14 PM	#1
Shortbus Drives: 88 IROC Z28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 126	Dropping Performance Models? Ok, what's this all about on CNN.com. Is this rumor or are they seriously considering this? "New government fuel economy regulations also face GM as it emerges from bankruptcy -- 39 miles per gallon for cars and 30 mpg for trucks by 2016. GM likes to brag about all the cars it makes that get 30 miles per gallon but it is still a long way from 39 mpg. It has already announced it is discontinuing its five high-performance models. Expect other high-horsepower models like Camaro to vanish as well. Anyone for a four-cylinder Corvette?" From: http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/27/auto...ion=2009052717

05-27-2009, 08:17 PM	#2
chrisinlittlerock Drives: 2010 Camaro/08 Tundra Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Little Rock Arkansas Posts: 797	Very sad if true. __________________ Rally Yellow 2SS/RS with Custom painted Black Rally Stripes, Heritage grill, Corsa cat backs with x pipe, CAI. Delivered: 8/18/09!!!!Yes!!!! "This is CHEVY country. On a quiet night you can hear a Ford rust."

05-27-2009, 08:17 PM	#3
nards444 Drives: 1SS/RS Black Join Date: May 2009 Location: New york Posts: 2,123 View My Garage	this has been well gone over. Its not just GM. And te 39 is an average not for every car. Gm is pretty close to that 39 average is right now. This is not new, what many you dont know is this, in the past car companies had to make so many V6's to the V8's they made, and this has been going on for a while, even during your beloved republican party. __________________ 2010 1SS/RS Black, CGM stripes, polished Rims, Tinted windows, Hurst shifter

05-27-2009, 08:47 PM	#9
EMB135Driver Jedi Master Drives: Boeing 757/767+2010 IBM 2SS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangor, ME and Palm Coast, FL Posts: 1,121	Who says a turbocharged or supercharged 4 cylinder won't happen. I think they need to put cars on diets too. __________________

05-27-2009, 09:00 PM	#11
GrnMchin Not easy being Green Drives: 67 Nova SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,256	With fuel prices rising and the demand for alternate fuel source being ever on the minds of the mass public I would expect to see more of this in the near future so get me while you can. And even though I would like to believe that the performance industry is the majority we are not. I real don't know what the future brings other then change. __________________ The 68 Camaro build project

05-27-2009, 08:34 PM	#4
Shortbus Drives: 88 IROC Z28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 126	I wasn't so much concerned with the mileage ratings as I was with the comment that they plan on killing off the Camaro.

05-27-2009, 08:46 PM	#8
Shortbus Drives: 88 IROC Z28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 126	I'm pretty sure it was on the average. That's how Toyota is going to be able to keep making the Tundra. They have the Prius to help average out the fuel economy.

05-28-2009, 03:14 AM	#12
songsj Drives: 2015 2SS/RS Summit White Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MPLS Posts: 804	Future of the Camaro I know this is just a reporters quote but it is getting scary. From CNNFN website: GM Article: It has already announced it is discontinuing its five high-performance models. Expect other high-horsepower models like Camaro to vanish as well. My guess is they will build them through at least spring or mid summer of 2010 but after that it's anyone's guess.

05-28-2009, 03:20 AM	#13
Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 18,421	would you mind linking the source please? I'm interested to see what they have to say. __________________ Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1

05-28-2009, 03:23 AM	#14
songsj Drives: 2015 2SS/RS Summit White Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MPLS Posts: 804	Here is a link to the article. http://money.cnn.com/2009/05/27/auto...ion=2009052717 They mention the Camaro about 2/3 of the way down the page.

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