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Old 07-03-2013, 06:23 PM   #126
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Because accountants believe it increases the bottom line. Reduces the number of possible combinations in manufacturing and they believe it increases the average purchase price. If you want a certain feature they get to sell you two or three others just to get it.
Clearly, someone in GM has put together a sales model that suggests they will make more money selling more options to people who don't want all of them than they will miss out on making from sales going to a competitor who may offer a more a-la-carte options list.

I'll also point out an additional trend somewhat along those lines which is finding ways to raise prices, and then extending the payment plan an extra year to keep the payments the same each month. An unsettling number of buyers look only at their monthly payment and nothing else on the sales contract, and some have no idea what they are actually paying for their car. Bundling often unrelated options together in large packages is tailor-made for that type of finance/sales tactic.
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:13 PM   #127
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Why would I say that? You do not know me so why the cheap shot?
it wasn't a cheap shot... the same group here who knows the potential of the 3.5 Ecoboost with a tune are like the L99 group, but because it's a Camaro, nobody says anything.. im just pointing out the hypocrisy of people when the arguments are similar..
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:40 PM   #128
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Please go back and re-read my post that you quoted.

I said with a tune. If a crew cab f150 can do mid 13s or better, and if a Flex that weighs 5,000 lbs with a tuned ecoboost can do 12s (which has been done more than once) then this truck is capable of low 13s or high 12s.

In stock form I'd expect low to mid 14s.
I think your forgetting the biggest factor which is 4wd. This truck will not be as fast without some sticky rubber out back to take advantage if the power.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:05 PM   #129
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I think your forgetting the biggest factor which is 4wd. This truck will not be as fast without some sticky rubber out back to take advantage if the power.
You can get the tremor in 4wd
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Old 07-04-2013, 04:54 AM   #130
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it wasn't a cheap shot... the same group here who knows the potential of the 3.5 Ecoboost with a tune are like the L99 group, but because it's a Camaro, nobody says anything.. im just pointing out the hypocrisy of people when the arguments are similar..
it was you calling me out by reference to the post. It is a GM Camaro site BTW and if they are arguing about the L99 and it butthurts you I would move on.

here is a site where they give a crap about fords http://www.ford.com sites that begin with GM brand names typically will discuss them but not fanboy them so get over it.

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Old 07-04-2013, 05:34 AM   #131
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I think your forgetting the biggest factor which is 4wd. This truck will not be as fast without some sticky rubber out back to take advantage if the power.
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You can get the tremor in 4wd
YES, 4wd boosted launches FTW!

Just ask those diesel guys, SC'd Tundra's or Parish/ new owner of the blue RCSB AWD Silverado with a turbo'd 6.0L about AWD on a boosted rig. Their ability to hold back all that torque and horsepower from spooling the turbos at the line, then releasing the brakes and going WOT without any wheel spin or hopping, just consistent drama free passes. I almost feels like a religious experience the first time you do it especially when modded and passengers grasping them selfs and giving a crazy look of fun, fear and excitement on their face. 4 wheel traction is why so many cars use AWD systems despite the added weight. All right its too late to be typing.

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Old 07-05-2013, 11:30 AM   #132
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Seriously whats up with that?

All the manufacturers do it, but why? I can understand some high end options only being available on the "top" trims but if why can't I get leather seats without getting a higher trim and an option package
You can option a new Silverado/Sierra well into the $40k bracket and still not have leather seats in it.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:00 AM   #133
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In HD form For some reason Dodge always gives the HDs a lower power rating than 1500s, if they offer that engine on a 1500 the power rating would be higher, if they offer it in a sports trucks it will no doubt be the full 470/470.

well, GM could always put an LT1 in an RCSB. but they won't. because they're lame that way.
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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I think your forgetting the biggest factor which is 4wd. This truck will not be as fast without some sticky rubber out back to take advantage if the power.
they roll out easy with the turbo lag!
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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Ecoboost vs 6.2L = Ecoboost FTW

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Old 07-07-2013, 07:31 AM   #136
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Ecoboost vs 6.2L = Ecoboost FTW


Yeah another ford with a turbo - yeah Fords with turbos rules the world yeah yeah yeah . they need to thank the people over at Oldsmobile for doing their work for them. Olds took them from aircraft and put them on the highway not Ford.

Only thing eco about a Ford, is a turd is biodegradable.
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:39 AM   #137
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Ecoboost vs 6.2L = Ecoboost FTW

Yeah for over 80k there's nothing impressive about that truck. Some suspension bolt ons, only 410ish Hp, basic driveline and interior for what a few more mpg's? I would rather have a 5.0 with a blower, full suspension and better interior for much less.
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:13 PM   #138
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Yeah another ford with a turbo - yeah Fords with turbos rules the world yeah yeah yeah . they need to thank the people over at Oldsmobile for doing their work for them. Olds took them from aircraft and put them on the highway not Ford.

Only thing eco about a Ford, is a turd is biodegradable.
u mad bro? I think you should go see somebody about that bad attitude.. you sound emotional
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:50 PM   #139
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u mad bro? I think you should go see somebody about that bad attitude.. you sound emotional
he's mad
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:01 AM   #140
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they need to thank the people over at Oldsmobile for doing their work for them.
Yeah let's get right on that.

Anybody have Oldsmobiles phone number so we can all thank them?
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Yeah let's get right on that.

Anybody have Oldsmobiles phone number so we can all thank them?
I got to look In duckberg to find that
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Old 07-08-2013, 10:58 AM   #142
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well, GM could always put an LT1 in an RCSB. but they won't. because they're lame that way.
The full on 6.4 Hemi is still more powerful with 470/470 Neither will happen though, so what's the point of even imagining it :(
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I agree. GM needs to break up their options more. Ford is better at this with their trucks. I got everything I wanted on a base F150 RCSB and nothing I didn't.
Not so. I went with GM because I couldn't get what I wanted in a Ford. So to each his own.

In order to get the 6.2 you'd need either the Raptor, Harley or platinum editions. Way expensive.

I could not stand the ugly wood grain in the Lariat interior but i wanted cooled seats. The FX4 had a nice interior but fugly flat black accents on the outside. And no cooled seats.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:55 PM   #144
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Not so. I went with GM because I couldn't get what I wanted in a Ford. So to each his own.

In order to get the 6.2 you'd need either the Raptor, Harley or platinum editions. Way expensive.

I could not stand the ugly wood grain in the Lariat interior but i wanted cooled seats. The FX4 had a nice interior but fugly flat black accents on the outside. And no cooled seats.

for 2013 Models You can get the 6.2L in the XLT, FX2, FX4, Lariat, Raptor and Platinum. and you can get cooled seats in the FX4
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u mad bro? I think you should go see somebody about that bad attitude.. you sound emotional
I have GM - emotional from a post lmao some of you children.
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:12 PM   #146
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Yeah let's get right on that.

Anybody have Oldsmobiles phone number so we can all thank them?

Here it is
800-442-6537

http://www.oldsmobile.com/#/CONTACT%20US

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800-442-OLDS. That was the roadside assistance number on mine when it was new. (I think the sticker for it is still on the rear door window).

Why is GM maintaining an Oldsmobile website, by the way? Is Chrysler still maintaining a Plymouth website?
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:54 PM   #148
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800-442-OLDS. That was the roadside assistance number on mine when it was new. (I think the sticker for it is still on the rear door window).

Why is GM maintaining an Oldsmobile website, by the way? Is Chrysler still maintaining a Plymouth website?
nope:
http://www.plymouth.com/
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