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CamaroScotty · 01-20-2010, 11:34 AM

Here's your answer:

Here is a quote from the head of GM Racing, Mark Kent -

"We've looked at racing the Camaro, and one thing we do not want to do is to force the car where it shouldn't be," Kent said. "We looked at NASCAR, for example--took a very hard look at running the Camaro in the Nationwide series. That was a request made of us by NASCAR, and we have had a ... See Moretremendous partnership with NASCAR, so we took a very hard look at it.

"At the end of the day, because of the quest for very close competition and the need to have templated bodies in that series, we felt that by forcing the Camaro into the Nationwide templates that we were compromising the body lines of an iconic car. So at the end of the day we just could not get the Camaro in the Nationwide series to satisfy our requirements."

PAUL SS · 01-20-2010, 11:37 AM

That would be the ugliest Camaro ever built. Have you ever seen a Mustang Funny Car? Not much resemblence (sp) except for the grill and tail lights.

greenrail · 01-20-2010, 11:47 AM

Scotty:

Good posting. I for one would like to harken back to the Original Trans Am series. real production based autos with necessary safety mods going head to head. Keep hem as close to stock looking as possible.

Now that would be racing to go and see. I went and watched a Mustang Challenge race here at the Autobahn race course last year. Damn, those cars looked awesome. Just had to close my eyes and imagine Camaros and Challengers in the mix.

Ah, the things of which dreams are made!

James4086 · 01-20-2010, 11:54 AM

I agree with coolman, it went from "National Association for Stock Car Automotive Racing" to the National Association for STANDARDIZED Car Automotive Racing.

Scrapppy666 · 01-20-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by coolman

All it is ,is a fricken sticker anyhow. They have nothing to do with the real cars that we drive.

true, but manufactures do claim to "learn" things from NASCAR teams.... who knows?

Angrybird 12 · 01-20-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by greenrail

Scotty:

Good posting. I for one would like to harken back to the Original Trans Am series. real production based autos with necessary safety mods going head to head. Keep hem as close to stock looking as possible.

Now that would be racing to go and see. I went and watched a Mustang Challenge race here at the Autobahn race course last year. Damn, those cars looked awesome. Just had to close my eyes and imagine Camaros and Challengers in the mix.

Ah, the things of which dreams are made!

I think a Trans Am type series would do good now.. Many of the Nascar tracks now have a roadcourse in the infield... Maybe we should all write to Bruton Smith to start his own race series like that a t all his tracks.. I bet many would go see it...I know a few years ago he looked into starting a new Stock car series, similar to Nascar, when Nascar was holding back approving some of his tracks for a second race.. Now just may be the time if he gets enough feedback.

I can see it now, the "American Muscle Car Racing Series". AMCRS.

PAUL SS · 01-20-2010, 12:02 PM

Hey Scotty, how's that mule your driving?

greenrail · 01-20-2010, 12:15 PM

A couple of years ago I was talking to a GM engineer in Detroit, and the one thing they gleaned from participation in NASCAR (and I am sure from other forms or racing also) is Discipline. Regimmented engineering and consistency of development was a key factor in assigning company engineers to work with the various racing teams.

Scrapppy666 · 01-20-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coolman

They say that to keep the bean Counters off their backs.

probably

Brokinarrow · 01-20-2010, 12:17 PM

SAMECAR racing: same car, different stickers

Angrybird 12 · 01-20-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

SAMECAR racing: same car, different stickers

The nose pieces are all different same basic shape but different indentions for the grill and headlight decals and side window shape...Specific for the car they repersent, Engines are different also. (until they all have to use the Engine Nascar is working on)
Actually the Nationwide cars will be closer in apperance to the production cars than the Cup are.

BRKLYN · 01-20-2010, 12:23 PM

IROC series, lol

2010 SSRS · 01-20-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BRKLYN

IROC series, lol

I second that

SamIyam · 01-20-2010, 12:54 PM

Who cares about NASCAR... just a bunch of jelly beans going around in circles.

They have rules to make the cars more competitive... gotta make everyone feel good...

Sam

01-20-2010, 11:34 AM	#1
CamaroScotty Account Suspended Drives: Your new SLP Camaro! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedarburg, WI Posts: 6,801	Why isn't the Camaro in NASCAR???? Here's your answer: Here is a quote from the head of GM Racing, Mark Kent - "We've looked at racing the Camaro, and one thing we do not want to do is to force the car where it shouldn't be," Kent said. "We looked at NASCAR, for example--took a very hard look at running the Camaro in the Nationwide series. That was a request made of us by NASCAR, and we have had a ... See Moretremendous partnership with NASCAR, so we took a very hard look at it. "At the end of the day, because of the quest for very close competition and the need to have templated bodies in that series, we felt that by forcing the Camaro into the Nationwide templates that we were compromising the body lines of an iconic car. So at the end of the day we just could not get the Camaro in the Nationwide series to satisfy our requirements."

01-20-2010, 11:37 AM	#2
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	That would be the ugliest Camaro ever built. Have you ever seen a Mustang Funny Car? Not much resemblence (sp) except for the grill and tail lights. __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

01-20-2010, 11:47 AM	#3
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,395	Scotty: Good posting. I for one would like to harken back to the Original Trans Am series. real production based autos with necessary safety mods going head to head. Keep hem as close to stock looking as possible. Now that would be racing to go and see. I went and watched a Mustang Challenge race here at the Autobahn race course last year. Damn, those cars looked awesome. Just had to close my eyes and imagine Camaros and Challengers in the mix. Ah, the things of which dreams are made! __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

01-20-2010, 11:54 AM	#4
James4086 Drives: Black 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Prairieville La Posts: 252 View My Garage	I agree with coolman, it went from "National Association for Stock Car Automotive Racing" to the National Association for STANDARDIZED Car Automotive Racing. __________________ CAUTION: side effects of driving a Camaro include grinimus permintallis otherwise known as "Permagrin" and random, uncontrollable outbursts of "I love this car!!"

01-20-2010, 12:02 PM	#7
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	Hey Scotty, how's that mule your driving? __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

01-20-2010, 12:15 PM	#8
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,395	A couple of years ago I was talking to a GM engineer in Detroit, and the one thing they gleaned from participation in NASCAR (and I am sure from other forms or racing also) is Discipline. Regimmented engineering and consistency of development was a key factor in assigning company engineers to work with the various racing teams. __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

01-20-2010, 12:17 PM	#10
Brokinarrow Drives: 2012 Honda NC700x Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indianola, IA Posts: 5,317 View My Garage	SAMECAR racing: same car, different stickers __________________

01-20-2010, 12:23 PM	#12
BRKLYN Account Suspended Drives: 98 C-5, Chev/Venture, VTX1300 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: KISSIMMEE, FL Posts: 198	IROC series, lol

01-20-2010, 12:54 PM	#14
SamIyam Drives: 2010 1SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 139	Who cares about NASCAR... just a bunch of jelly beans going around in circles. They have rules to make the cars more competitive... gotta make everyone feel good... Sam

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