06-25-2020, 02:53 AM | #1 |
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Pray (Remote) VS MSorian (Dyno)
Pray (Remote) VS MSorian (Dyno)
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07-06-2020, 12:39 AM | #2 |
Drives: 2016 Chevy Camaro 2SS Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Sorian sucks at communication. I did a dyno, but afterwards somethings were incorrect and he hasn’t emailed me back in a month.
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07-06-2020, 11:09 AM | #3 |
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07-06-2020, 03:33 PM | #4 |
Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Denver
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Pray for sure. More than proven and excellent feedback. Would not trust the other with all the complaints.
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08-07-2020, 10:13 AM | #5 |
Dyno Show Queen LOL
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I never had a problem with his work.. I admit communication is slow sometimes. his work is good and is worth slow communication its worth it to me. There's a reason why shops... good shops w tuners that can't figure it out use him.. If you live in Houston you know that's true he's always got a car from Bomberos racing or some other shop there.
I would never do a remote tune anyhow unless he is making it run to bring to him or get somewhere to have it in person just to risky and to much fine tuning on things to tackle to not have it in person especially with the new torque management tables. other than these 2 complaints which ones are u talking about?
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08-07-2020, 11:12 AM | #6 |
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Pray all day.
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08-07-2020, 11:41 AM | #7 |
Drives: 2017 2SS, M6, Silver Join Date: Jun 2018
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Pray prefers romte tuning as its better to get it dialed in while on the real world load you will be operating the vehicle in. Dyno is great no doubting that but its limited to what it can generate load wise. i have both a dyno tune and remote tune from pray and the remote tune is what made the car feel complete. and its already been said but PRAY all day!
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08-07-2020, 11:52 AM | #8 |
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EDF,
Most he has had scrubbed, but tons of examples out there: https://ripoffscams.com/reports-file...florida/22327/ Or threads closed, but like this a simple search here will show plenty: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=469973 But a search will show all the way back from TTT to ECS, to FSP, and now doing in TX. Cheers! |
08-07-2020, 12:09 PM | #9 |
Drives: 2019 SS Join Date: Apr 2020
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Heard Ted Jannetty is a pretty awesome remote tuner as well.
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08-07-2020, 03:44 PM | #10 |
Dyno Show Queen LOL
Drives: 16 SS & 17 ZL1 Both Yellow Join Date: Jan 2014
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Filling bankruptcy doesn't make you a bad tuner. Hell I've had to do it people lose on both ends. And thing to do if a shop ask's for money upfront to is to use a CC. Hell even a bank card has protection.
The funny thing is there are about 10 or 15 good tuners on there own group chat that all have to ask each other questions when something arises strange, or talk about builds, share info ect.... a lot are on this forum and super well known I've seen some on this list when I had a problem w the LPE hpfp. He must be doing something right if those tuners hitting him up..
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08-13-2020, 12:55 PM | #11 |
Oh Oh it's Friday Night!
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FYI, a dyno tune should always include a street tune as well. Any high quality shop will want you to leave your vehicle so that it can be tuned on the street and tweaked on the dyno.
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08-13-2020, 01:20 PM | #12 |
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This is how my local tuner does it, he drives it on the street to make sure it runs the way it should and then puts it on the dyno to make power.
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10-31-2020, 12:26 AM | #13 |
Drives: Camaro 1SS A8 Vert Join Date: Sep 2018
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MS Tuning does awesome work. They do a lot of big money cars.
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11-01-2020, 09:02 AM | #14 |
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Truer words were never spoken. Unfortunately the old adage “Time is Money” is the mantra for a lot of tuning shops. Their process is to do 5-6 pulls on the dyno to impress the customer with big numbers, charge $500 and yell “next” for the next customer.
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