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eblanchette · 06-25-2013, 05:41 PM

Will this be possible? looks like they took the lfx and added turbos / new heads.

GretchenGotGrowl · 06-25-2013, 06:14 PM

Don't know yet. It uses a different ECU than us from what I understand, so that may make it difficult. I'm hoping that's not true.

Macrackie · 06-25-2013, 08:43 PM

Even if it uses a diff ecu if you had a complete donnor car why not take it all? Wiring ecu etc....

If the ecu controls the dash cluster than I would completely understand.

GretchenGotGrowl · 06-25-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Macrackie

Even if it uses a diff ecu if you had a complete donnor car why not take it all? Wiring ecu etc....

If the ecu controls the dash cluster than I would completely understand.

Unfortunately, all the controllers have to "sync" up. I don't think the BCM for the caddy will work on our cars, and I don't think you will be able to sync a different ECU with our BCM without a lot of work. I wish it was easy...if it were then I would have just taken the ECU from a LFX and put it in my old LLT (missing the green).

Agarc · 06-26-2013, 08:28 AM

just wait till some one wrecks one get it at the junk yard for like 500 buck and pull everything u need lol.. thats what i did with a Gto

KMPrenger · 06-26-2013, 11:51 AM

I agree with gretchen. This is not as easy as a simple swap.

Also, that engine is much more than an LFX with turbos strapped on. Yes it originated from the LFX and shares a lot but there are some new or stronger components there compared to the LFX.

That thing will be a beast with a tune.

Macrackie · 06-26-2013, 10:42 PM

10-4 on syncing up the ecm and bcm. I figured that is what pushed you into the lfx. Of all the efi into carb bodys I have done we never had anything fancy for a dash. Just old analog gauges which don't care.

Hell swap a motor in these new cars and your windows might not roll up and down when your done.

eblanchette · 06-27-2013, 03:58 PM

Might as well swap for a huge crate motor then.

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Agarc · 06-27-2013, 04:12 PM

yea if u dont care just takes time and patience.. ive had no time lately been working alot and running a shop.. but i have a fully bulit LS2 and t56 tranny and Ecu from a wrecked GTO im waiting to drop into a car Maybe mine now or a Chevelle. i would like to drop it into my camaro cause its different.. i mean my car already has upgraded Shocks and springs and i have the 3.91s just sitting in the garage

Macrackie · 06-30-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Agarc

yea if u dont care just takes time and patience.. ive had no time lately been working alot and running a shop.. but i have a fully bulit LS2 and t56 tranny and Ecu from a wrecked GTO im waiting to drop into a car Maybe mine now or a Chevelle. i would like to drop it into my camaro cause its different.. i mean my car already has upgraded Shocks and springs and i have the 3.91s just sitting in the garage

Set new ground...stab that ls2 I'm to the camaro. You would be a new leader for us v6 guys.

Lol

Skexies · 07-09-2013, 06:25 PM

as more details come out on the 2T V6, it will use a hitachi fuel injection system and has two air sensors as well as controls each turbo seperate to each bank of 3 cyls.

They say 90% new content. The crank is the same as the LFX but the new has better crank end caps, rods, pistons and metal head gaskets. Heads were reworked to handle EGR/PCV from boosting and incorporate better water jacket cooling into the head.... it goes on and on...

They also mate it up with an 8 speed auto that has improved hardened gears and a beefed up torque converter.

KMPrenger · 07-09-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Skexies

as more details come out on the 2T V6, it will use a hitachi fuel injection system and has two air sensors as well as controls each turbo seperate to each bank of 3 cyls.

They say 90% new content. The crank is the same as the LFX but the new has better crank end caps, rods, pistons and metal head gaskets. Heads were reworked to handle EGR/PCV from boosting and incorporate better water jacket cooling into the head.... it goes on and on...

They also mate it up with an 8 speed auto that has improved hardened gears and a beefed up torque converter.

In other words...its a beast. The 420 or so HP/TQ it is making in the CTS is likely barely scratching the surface of what it can do. I'm really looking forward to seeing what kind of power the give it in the ATS-V...hopefully closer 450 or more HP/TQ, but its definitely capable of well past that I'm sure.

GretchenGotGrowl · 07-18-2013, 08:58 AM

Can't wait to see the first one. I'm wonder what we can learn and apply to our motors.

Skexies · 07-18-2013, 12:11 PM

I'm curious about the bi-metal pistons... should provide much better detonation resistance without heavy weight increases.

I'm also curious to see (if the LFX doesn't have them already) if they have added items like oil squirters below the pistons.

06-25-2013, 05:41 PM	#1
eblanchette Drives: 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Northern wasteland. Posts: 232	Cadillac swap. Will this be possible? looks like they took the lfx and added turbos / new heads.

06-25-2013, 06:14 PM	#2
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	Don't know yet. It uses a different ECU than us from what I understand, so that may make it difficult. I'm hoping that's not true. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

06-26-2013, 08:28 AM	#5
Agarc Dr.Frankenstein Drives: 15gt Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: MIA Posts: 1,568 View My Garage	just wait till some one wrecks one get it at the junk yard for like 500 buck and pull everything u need lol.. thats what i did with a Gto __________________ Carandsoulcustoms puntocomm

06-26-2013, 11:51 AM	#6
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	I agree with gretchen. This is not as easy as a simple swap. Also, that engine is much more than an LFX with turbos strapped on. Yes it originated from the LFX and shares a lot but there are some new or stronger components there compared to the LFX. That thing will be a beast with a tune. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

06-27-2013, 04:12 PM	#9
Agarc Dr.Frankenstein Drives: 15gt Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: MIA Posts: 1,568 View My Garage	yea if u dont care just takes time and patience.. ive had no time lately been working alot and running a shop.. but i have a fully bulit LS2 and t56 tranny and Ecu from a wrecked GTO im waiting to drop into a car Maybe mine now or a Chevelle. i would like to drop it into my camaro cause its different.. i mean my car already has upgraded Shocks and springs and i have the 3.91s just sitting in the garage __________________ Carandsoulcustoms puntocomm

06-25-2013, 08:43 PM	#3
Macrackie Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Stripper model Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Beloit IL Posts: 641	Even if it uses a diff ecu if you had a complete donnor car why not take it all? Wiring ecu etc.... If the ecu controls the dash cluster than I would completely understand.

06-26-2013, 10:42 PM	#7
Macrackie Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Stripper model Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Beloit IL Posts: 641	10-4 on syncing up the ecm and bcm. I figured that is what pushed you into the lfx. Of all the efi into carb bodys I have done we never had anything fancy for a dash. Just old analog gauges which don't care. Hell swap a motor in these new cars and your windows might not roll up and down when your done.

06-27-2013, 03:58 PM	#8
eblanchette Drives: 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Northern wasteland. Posts: 232	Might as well swap for a huge crate motor then. Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using Tapatalk 2

07-09-2013, 06:25 PM	#11
Skexies Nobody of Interest Drives: 2012 2LT/RS A6 'vert "Ra" Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 47 View My Garage	as more details come out on the 2T V6, it will use a hitachi fuel injection system and has two air sensors as well as controls each turbo seperate to each bank of 3 cyls. They say 90% new content. The crank is the same as the LFX but the new has better crank end caps, rods, pistons and metal head gaskets. Heads were reworked to handle EGR/PCV from boosting and incorporate better water jacket cooling into the head.... it goes on and on... They also mate it up with an 8 speed auto that has improved hardened gears and a beefed up torque converter. __________________ 2012 2LT/RS A6 Convertible IOM "Ra"

07-18-2013, 08:58 AM	#13
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	Can't wait to see the first one. I'm wonder what we can learn and apply to our motors. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

07-18-2013, 12:11 PM	#14
Skexies Nobody of Interest Drives: 2012 2LT/RS A6 'vert "Ra" Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 47 View My Garage	I'm curious about the bi-metal pistons... should provide much better detonation resistance without heavy weight increases. I'm also curious to see (if the LFX doesn't have them already) if they have added items like oil squirters below the pistons. __________________ 2012 2LT/RS A6 Convertible IOM "Ra"