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Old 09-02-2012, 06:23 PM   #43
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Is the 1LE reasonable for a DD? Important to consider.
Yes.
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:51 PM   #44
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I didn't say any modded SS, I said the mods the other person listed. Also there's more to be said than ultimate speed, there's durability and repeatability to consider which the cooler and bearings address. It's the difference between having a car made for on ramps and a car made for the track.
No you didn't, but he did and you made the statement "your package." So what was his package being installed on then?

Who said anything about "ultimate" speed? My comments were about handling. I pretty much know the difference between on ramps and tracking. My car has spent more miles this summer on the track than on the street.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:56 AM   #45
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But you're in TX!

Roads here in New England suck!
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:32 AM   #46
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  • FE6 suspension package which includes thicker front and rear sway bars, a strut tower brace, toe links, rear shock mounts, monotube dampers
  • Upgraded half-shafts and wheel bearings sourced from the ZL1
  • 20-inch wheels wrapped with Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperCar
  • 3.91:1 rear-axle ratio
  • Close-ratio v
  • Tremec six-speed manual transmission with transmission cooler and high-flow fuel pump.

These are solid upgrades to the SS. The 3.91 with require an extra shift on some straights, but the extra shift is more than offset by the overall performance. Couple that with a close ration gear box and the 1LE is golden on track. I say this because we have run multiple variations of the gear and trannies since 2009. Give Chevrolet

The absence of a differential cooler

Improved half-shaft and bearings get

The wheels and tires are a plus from the SS but far from the ideal setup due to crash test standards and the range of ride height acceptable with out re-validating the crash testing

FE6 is another huge plus, but are not adjustable in height or damping

Four pot fronts instead of ZL1 six pots

The 1LE is a great car for the occasional HPDE. For the hardcore road course owner you get more than enough good stuff to go with your after market and OEM based upgrades.
I wonder if we would be able to transplant these parts onto our SS non 1LEs. Get the 1LE diff and have a diff cooler setup made and installed, this may be possible. I may be wrong but isn't hotter diff temps going to bring on torque management sooner than having the diff cooled with the cooler in place.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:37 AM   #47
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But you're in TX!

Roads here in New England suck!
Blackswan I live in Mass as well and my car now is probably stiffer than the 1LE. It's NY and NJ that will have you wanting an extra A$#$#S.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:56 AM   #48
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Your other option to get 1LE levels of handling for your SS would be to look at our 2010+ Camaro Race Pack Stage 3 Total Vehicle System (TVS). This kit includes Sport Coil Springs, Front Sway Bar, Adjustable Rear Sway Bar, Front and Rear Heavy Duty Adjustable End Links, Strut Tower Brace, and Chassis Brace. These parts are designed to compliment each other and give you a matched suspension setup that works right out of the box. And even better, all of this engineering is available for under $2500.



Check out what Autoblog and Road and Track have to say about how the handling of a Hotchkis-equipped Camaro compares to stock:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/12/h...r-than-before/

http://www.hotchkis.net/_uploaded_fi...5thgen_zz1.pdf
Hotchkis guys no offense but I wouldn't substitute any FE3 rear bar setup for even the stock ZL-1 bar. I had your rear 35mm bar and the ZL-1 rear 28 is superior sorry. You need to upgrade your rear bar.
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:01 AM   #49
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1LE may be slower...

stiffer suspension and possibly an extra shift before the finish line...

should get a jump on a highway pull but not really pull away.
I'd say quicker E.T with lower trap speed =1LE.
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PORSCHE CARERRA GT SPECS. Max speed 334 kph (207.08 mph) 0 - 100 kph 3.5 s 0 - 180 kph 7.6 s 0 - 200 kph 9.9 s 0 - 250 kph 17.2 s 0 - 300 kph 34.2 s 0 - 100 mph 6.5 s 1000 m 19.4 s @ 266 kph 1/4 mile 11.0 s 0 - 100 - 0 mph 11.3 s
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:53 AM   #51
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I'd say quicker E.T with lower trap speed =1LE.
I agree if the ss and 1le both run sticky tires.....not on street tires.
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:16 PM   #52
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The suspension, gears, wheels and tires sound like a good deal for the 3,500 , i would have to say that the wheels are probably my favorite on the camaro.. So to get it straight , with the 3.91 gears would the 1LE pull harder off the line or from a roll? (Compared to a SS)
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:54 PM   #53
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But you're in TX!

Roads here in New England suck!
The 1LE ride quality is very good on the streets of Detroit, arguably the worst in any snow-belt city.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:55 PM   #54
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The suspension, gears, wheels and tires sound like a good deal for the 3,500 , i would have to say that the wheels are probably my favorite on the camaro.. So to get it straight , with the 3.91 gears would the 1LE pull harder off the line or from a roll? (Compared to a SS)
Both.
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:02 PM   #55
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Good, I enjoy a car that has a strong pull.
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:40 PM   #56
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So were are the 0-60 specs for 1LE?
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