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THE EVIL TW1N · 05-12-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowley

Don't you mean 14-15% for auto and 12% for manual .. no way there is 24-25 and 22% loss ..

Crowley

+1

exactly.

my C6 (possibly the most inefficient transmission in the world) and 9" rear end on my galaxy probably loses in the 20% range. No way a modern car does.

bobby35ny · 05-12-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt TuneTime

After dynoing many G8's the driveline loss is 24-25% for auto and 22% for manual .Nice Job guys ..

If thats true, then the major loss issue must be in the IRS no?

-bobby

Camarofan123 · 05-12-2009, 12:03 PM

It looks like the admin messed up and put 72rwhp instead of 45rwhp on the camaro5 homepage. Hopefully he/she will fix it.

dankss · 05-12-2009, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arod

damn that sounded good n it had 21's so twenty's might have made a little more power?

wheels size has nothing to do with horse power

Camarofan123 · 05-12-2009, 12:09 PM

Rotational mass(the weight of the wheels) only matters. It's like this. A 20lb 20'' aluminum wheel will produce more HP on the dyno than a 17'' 35lb wheel even though the 20'' is a larger size wheel. More wheel weight= more power used up to turn the wheels. This is the same concept as an aluminum driveshaft freeing up power because of it's lighter than stock weight.

2Muchmark · 05-12-2009, 12:19 PM

Can someone explain to me what I am hearing during the tests?

I Can hear the normal engine sound, but there is another sound which to me, reminds me of the VIPER START-UP Sound in the old Battlestar Galactica. Is there a blower or fan of some kind on this car? Could that be what I am hearing?

thebiz198 · 05-12-2009, 12:24 PM

everyone please read the threads from post #1 on down. half the comments on this thread are pointless. post #14 and #15 stated

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwilkes

Hi, I made that video of the Fastlane Camaro... a couple of things to note...

1: I messed up the base Dyno and the initial numbers were not as low as the ones i posted. The car actually made 355 RWHP from the factory.

2: It did make hit the 400+ RWHP on the dyno, but the gains are not actually "+72 RWHP and +66 RWTQ" more like +45 RWHP and +40 RWTQ

Sorry for messing that up...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwilkes

To answer other questions...
stripes are orange...
it's 2ss/rs
it's a six speed

yet there are 30+posts after talking about the car being an auto and wrong performance gains.

Kwaz1335 · 05-12-2009, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark

Can someone explain to me what I am hearing during the tests?

I Can hear the normal engine sound, but there is another sound which to me, reminds me of the VIPER START-UP Sound in the old Battlestar Galactica. Is there a blower or fan of some kind on this car? Could that be what I am hearing?

nope..what your hearing is the tires on the drums of the dyno..you will hear it no matter what car you may have up there

The Riz · 05-12-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Muchmark

Can someone explain to me what I am hearing during the tests?

I Can hear the normal engine sound, but there is another sound which to me, reminds me of the VIPER START-UP Sound in the old Battlestar Galactica. Is there a blower or fan of some kind on this car? Could that be what I am hearing?

I noticed that too. My best guess was that it's the roller on the dyno. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong though.

EDIT: And I type too slow because someone else beat me to it^^^

fastfret7 · 05-12-2009, 01:15 PM

Wait.... Maybe I'm not getting it. On a 426HP car, you are only getting 355RWHP???? Is that correct?

thebiz198 · 05-12-2009, 01:30 PM

the engine produces 426hp, but you lose some hp getting it to the wheels.

Camarofan123 · 05-12-2009, 01:46 PM

On a 426 HP car you're getting approximately 362 to the wheels based on the 15% drivetrain loss equation. The fastlane car dynoed lower than 362 because the weather was 85-90 degrees. I say this because dyno was most likely done 2 or so weeks ago, and I live in Houston, and the temps were up there close to 90 at the time.

thebiz198 · 05-12-2009, 02:03 PM

wouldn't their building be air conditioned? that drive train loss equation isn't 100% accurate. therefore i believe your 362 result compared to the 355 actual result are correct.

thebiz198 · 05-12-2009, 02:04 PM

i would like to know the difference with only the cold air intake.

05-12-2009, 01:15 PM	#80
fastfret7 Drives: 2003 Ford Focus SVT EAP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ashburn,VA Posts: 299	Wait.... Maybe I'm not getting it. On a 426HP car, you are only getting 355RWHP???? Is that correct? __________________ Heroes will be remembered, but legends will never die!! -The Sandlot...I know In my garage: 2003 Ford Focus SVT EAP in Infa-red 1 of 101 1970 EL Camino 454 SS w/ 4 speed muncie Red w/ Blk stripes 2010 2SS/RS Camaro w/hurst 6 spd in black on black w/red rally stripes

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05-12-2009, 12:03 PM	#73
Camarofan123 Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 110	It looks like the admin messed up and put 72rwhp instead of 45rwhp on the camaro5 homepage. Hopefully he/she will fix it.

05-12-2009, 12:09 PM	#75
Camarofan123 Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 110	Rotational mass(the weight of the wheels) only matters. It's like this. A 20lb 20'' aluminum wheel will produce more HP on the dyno than a 17'' 35lb wheel even though the 20'' is a larger size wheel. More wheel weight= more power used up to turn the wheels. This is the same concept as an aluminum driveshaft freeing up power because of it's lighter than stock weight.

05-12-2009, 12:19 PM	#76
2Muchmark Drives: 2013 2SS RS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 857	Can someone explain to me what I am hearing during the tests? I Can hear the normal engine sound, but there is another sound which to me, reminds me of the VIPER START-UP Sound in the old Battlestar Galactica. Is there a blower or fan of some kind on this car? Could that be what I am hearing?

05-12-2009, 01:30 PM	#81
thebiz198 Drives: car Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: missouri Posts: 72	the engine produces 426hp, but you lose some hp getting it to the wheels.

05-12-2009, 01:46 PM	#82
Camarofan123 Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 110	On a 426 HP car you're getting approximately 362 to the wheels based on the 15% drivetrain loss equation. The fastlane car dynoed lower than 362 because the weather was 85-90 degrees. I say this because dyno was most likely done 2 or so weeks ago, and I live in Houston, and the temps were up there close to 90 at the time.

05-12-2009, 02:03 PM	#83
thebiz198 Drives: car Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: missouri Posts: 72	wouldn't their building be air conditioned? that drive train loss equation isn't 100% accurate. therefore i believe your 362 result compared to the 355 actual result are correct.

05-12-2009, 02:04 PM	#84
thebiz198 Drives: car Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: missouri Posts: 72	i would like to know the difference with only the cold air intake.