07-28-2010, 10:51 PM | #85 |
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I am installing the GEN 2 version of Protorque's converter in a few weeks..
We will have the tuning figured out for this unit, Joe has done alot of work on his newest GEN 2 verter... Joe was very happy to have us be one of his testers and I will get data for u soon... We run his stuff exclusively because its the best.
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Oh yeah. Sorry. I totaly forgot about this thread. I guess my Pro Torque converter is a Gen 2 as well. I've had in in for almost two months. First thing I can tell you is that you don't notice it at all driving. I let my dad drive the car and he asked if the stall was in. Secondly, Ted did not need to do anything to the tune. They bolted the converter in and I was on my way. I've had no issues since the install and about 1500 miles. I just took it on a trip down to DC from CT and in the 100 degree heat it was flawless. Stop and go on the Jersey Turnpike was not a problem. Which brings me to my next point. I have no trans cooler and my temps remain the same as stock. They did not increase at all.
At the track, I only got three passes, the 60' went from a 1.60 with the stock stall to a 1.48. This is on slicks. No doubt this thing will be in the very low 1.4's when the DA turns negative in the fall. It feels like it pulls the wheels. At least thats what it feels like. All in all The Pro Torque converter has been much more than I expected. I'm glad I trust Ted to put in the good stuff. |
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Does the Protorque guarantee a WOT lockup?
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08-19-2010, 11:41 PM | #91 |
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Also, being supercharged puts/keeps the TCM in the high load tables. By that I mean your tranny is always seeing an enormous amount of power compared to stock and more than likely out of desired slip tables. I would be very interested to see a cruise/lockup log.
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Wacker, you last two posts are over my head but if it can be done using the SCT, would you like me to log some stuff for you? It would only be some around town driving and short highway runs. And it may take a week or to to get any info since I don't really use the car. Let me know.
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Joe has figured out the issues, I talked to him in lenght about what u are experiencing and neither me or superscharged with see this problemm
Joes fin and stator design makes for a stock like stall with good flash characteristics out of a 12" stock verter....
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08-21-2010, 12:37 AM | #94 |
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I know Joe makes good stuff. The reason your do not feel the pre-apply pressure is because of the single disk clutch. Joe has basically taken the stock converter, worked his magic, and re-sealed it back up. The Protorque retains the stock damper and single clutch element. Trust me, you are getting a pre-apply pressure, every 6L80E does. I know because I've ran a vet, truck, G8, and caddy OS in my Camaro. They all do it. What you will not get with a single disk converter is the ability to have WOT lockup with a good amount of power beyond stock or you'll have a very short converter life. Also, the 12" (300mm) converter is huge compared to a 248 or 258. What this translates to is more rotating mass regardless of stator used. I'd be curious to see a multi disk Protorque and how it reacts in this tranny. I think Yank was building one. Circle D is sending me another verter with less clutches possibly in the 278mm realm. The trick is to retain the high HP WOT lockup while eliminating the converter drag caused by the 17ish pre-apply pressure.
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SCT is a handheld flash tuner.
Question: are you running Circle Ds dual disk convertor... I've been in contact with them and trying to figure out which one to go with... |
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I doubt he'd be able to log TCC apply pressure then.
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U are totally correct, the stock size verter joe is building is for this reason
Not dissagreeing with u at all. I am sure someone will figure out the multi disc stuff but I have tested MANY verters over the yrs in 4L60's and locking them up was worth only mph....This was of course on NA setups ranging from 11.90 to 10.80... My 10.60 383 LT1 nitrous car did pick up .1 locking up at the top of 2nd.... Supercharged is propably running a version of my 12" too Just goes to show u that a 9.5" isnt always needed... I am going to base line my car next week (NA) Then do the verter and go the following week (NA) I will keep records of DA to compare, sit tight
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