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Old 07-10-2009, 03:14 PM   #43
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I agree with nards444. GM should just make a Camaro RS (what the LT/RS is now) with the DI V-6 and then an SS (what the SS/RS is now) but with a DI V-8. Refine both, make them more fuel-efficient, and add some new features to both, such as back-up radar (very helpful when backing out of a diagonal spot in a coupe) and body-color-keyed GFX and some new colors, like Desert Sand Metallic and Sunset Orange Metallic.
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:15 PM   #44
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:02 PM   #45
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I'm hoping for c. CTS-V like stats would thrill me.
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:16 PM   #46
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if you make it cool its going to cost 45k and thats not going to get the buyers. Sure there will be some initially, but then its going to the taper. Look at the challenger SRT-8 or the challenger in general Dodge it not making money on that car. So if the SS takes off you wont see the Z.

6.4 Liter HEMI is due next year, I would prefer the LS7, everybody's not into FI you know..... it's all about Motor
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:19 PM   #47
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Now you know why the Cadillac engineers were advising during testing stage...
CTS-V drivetrain in a Camaro!
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:26 PM   #48
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I had a feeling that that LSA was destined for greatness in Camaro too
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:58 PM   #49
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The LSA would be a better choice to compeat with other brands. That TVS1900 has alot of potental too.
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:45 PM   #50
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lsa non forged internals. yuck. give me the ls9. but i honestly believe it's the lsa ftw.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:37 PM   #51
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lsa non forged internals. yuck. give me the ls9. but i honestly believe it's the lsa ftw.
Most people don't need forged internals, also most never push an LS motor to its full potentental anyway. Would it be nice to have forged internals, yes, but to keep the price down keep it the way it is.
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Most people don't need forged internals, also most never push an LS motor to its full potentental anyway. Would it be nice to have forged internals, yes, but to keep the price down keep it the way it is.
key word there is most. But I'm not looking at max power or max potential. I'm looking at longevity. and on top of that from what I read about the lsa it's at or very close to the max efficiency out of the supercharger. put a bigger one on there the engine life is cut in half and now what? got a big paper weight like i do in my back yard.
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Old 09-24-2009, 05:00 AM   #53
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whose to say the new Z28 wont just be a handeling package or some nifty stickers on a body kit? Just a thought, maybe jsut another 6.2L or perhaps a nice middle model with the 5.3L from the trucks. They put them in the Monte Carlo SS and they ran like champs, 5.3 seconds 0-60. Not to shabby.
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key word there is most. But I'm not looking at max power or max potential. I'm looking at longevity. and on top of that from what I read about the lsa it's at or very close to the max efficiency out of the supercharger. put a bigger one on there the engine life is cut in half and now what? got a big paper weight like i do in my back yard.
Don't worry you"ll get longevity out of the motor the way it is. I have yet to see the TVS superchargers pushed to their limit so I doubt that that thing is at its limit. I could be wrong, but you have to look at IAT's, CFM, supercharger speed to determine is your pushing it to it limits. And if your into modding motors putting a TVS 2300 on any motor should require forging the pistion and connection rods.
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key word there is most. But I'm not looking at max power or max potential. I'm looking at longevity. and on top of that from what I read about the lsa it's at or very close to the max efficiency out of the supercharger. put a bigger one on there the engine life is cut in half and now what? got a big paper weight like i do in my back yard.
I dont' know about the efficiency of the LSA packaged TVS1900, but I know Magnuon had told a magazine, in a test on the first TVS'd G8 GT (it was either SC, CHP, or PHR I think) that the TVS1900 would support up to 800 horsepower (flywheel, presumably). That's a totally different SC assembly, but the rotors are the same, but it just seems if Magnuson can get 800 out of those sized rotors, GM's set-up should be within a some-what similar range I'd think, anyways. I need to do some research and see if there are any OEM to Magnuson SC swaps for those LSAs - that'd be a cool test I think up'ing the boost a few pounds wouldn't really impact the longevity of the engine though - it's still got a steel crank, and what seem like good rods and pistons. It does have those piston squirters too, to control those piston crown temps', and if GM brags about it around the 'Ring, then they shouldn't have a problem with people racing these things and deny warranties (what I'm saying is it looks like it's built pretty good; not as over-built as an LS9, but still really well...)

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whose to say the new Z28 wont just be a handeling package or some nifty stickers on a body kit? Just a thought, maybe jsut another 6.2L or perhaps a nice middle model with the 5.3L from the trucks. They put them in the Monte Carlo SS and they ran like champs, 5.3 seconds 0-60. Not to shabby.
Well, the quote from Mr. Welburn says it - not to sound like a smart@$$... Also, that 5.3 is like down 120+ horse shy of the LS3... To me - that doesn't make a whole lotta' sense unless they drop like 500 pounds...

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Don't worry you"ll get longevity out of the motor the way it is. I have yet to see the TVS superchargers pushed to their limit so I doubt that that thing is at its limit. I could be wrong, but you have to look at IAT's, CFM, supercharger speed to determine is your pushing it to it limits. And if your into modding motors putting a TVS 2300 on any motor should require forging the pistion and connection rods.
Putting a 2300 with 6 psi on a stock LS3 SS still sounds like a great option, for me anyways. I keep going back to that because I think that with that mod', a few other basic bolt-ons, and a full Pedders suspension would be perfect for me (with a little pulley action ) and probably come out cheaper than a Z28 from GM. I don't know though, because I'd still be more comfortable in a car GM set-up and just pulley-up and bolt-on a few goodies and be done.

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Old 09-24-2009, 10:14 AM   #56
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LSA just because the powertrain is in the GM parts bin. Now, if they so chose to do a limited run forged ver. possibly a ZL-1 w/ factory forged internals package that could raise the bar so to speak. (The ZR-1 of the Camaro world)

Non Forged LSA: Base Z/28
Forged LSA: ZL-1

Problem is it such a package would shove it into Z06 territory.. :/
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