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DietCoke · 06-21-2011, 10:38 PM

Doing mine this weekend, surprised there aren't more people doing it this way. It's cheaper then buying inserts, and does the same thing. Downside is you have to completely remove the subframe to do it.

DietCoke · 06-21-2011, 10:40 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Auto-Products-.../dp/B000CQ6IG2

Most parts stores stock it as well. I got two tubes, should be plenty to do the subframe and diff bushings.

DietCoke · 06-21-2011, 11:28 PM

I'll even take a few pictures to document.

axis · 06-22-2011, 12:34 AM

We use to do this to our motormounts, back in the day. Should be fine as long as you give it plenty of time to set up.

DietCoke · 06-22-2011, 12:37 AM

It's a 24-48 hour cure time. Will have several weeks to sit, so it's all good

@Motor mount comment : I've done several tired old motor/tranny mounts on several cars with this stuff. Brings them back to life for sure and limits motion greatly. Cant beat it for the cost

axis · 06-22-2011, 07:49 AM

I mentioned doing this in a thread not long ago but no one replied to it. Seems like a feaseble alternative to doing the inserts and as you mentioned, considerably cheaper. The only issue I see is the possible hassle of getting it out if you deside to go with full bushing replacements.

Mr Twisty · 06-22-2011, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

I mentioned doing this in a thread not long ago but no one replied to it. Seems like a feaseble alternative to doing the inserts and as you mentioned, considerably cheaper. The only issue I see is the possible hassle of getting it out if you deside to go with full bushing replacements.

This.

Seems to be more of a repair than a solution, but let us know how it works for you.

steeleshark2 · 06-22-2011, 09:15 AM

If I had to remove the subframe anyway, I would just replace the bushings with polys.

hypurone · 06-22-2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DietCoke

Downside is you have to completely remove the subframe to do it.

You have answered your own question as to why. Inserts can be done without doing this. And if you are gonna go thru the hassle of dropping the subframe, you want to install the best possible solution and this is not it. IMHO.

You do know that this product is made for windshields etc right? I doubt it will stand up in your application....

Mr Twisty · 06-22-2011, 10:43 AM

Yep, durability is probably gonna be an issue.

axis · 06-22-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hypurone

You have answered your own question as to why. Inserts can be done without doing this. And if you are gonna go thru the hassle of dropping the subframe, you want to install the best possible solution and this is not it. IMHO.

You do know that this product is made for windshields etc right? I doubt it will stand up in your application....

I don't understand the OP's need to drop the subframe though. It should be even easier than putting in inserts. All you need is access to the voids in the bushings and just from one side. Inject the urethane, button it back up, then let it dry for the allotted time. While this isn't as good as a complete bushing swap, I think it's a viable option to the inserts. Also, $30-40 vs $160 for essentially the same thing can be very appealing.

hypurone · 06-22-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

I don't understand the OP's need to drop the subframe though. It should be even easier than putting in inserts. All you need is access to the voids in the bushings and just from one side. Inject the urethane, button it back up, then let it dry for the allotted time. While this isn't as good as a complete bushing swap, I think it's a viable option to the inserts. Also, $30-40 vs $160 for essentially the same thing can be very appealing.

What he has listed is for sealing windshields, lenses etc, not meant for this application.

As long as ALL of the gap is filled AND the proper product is used then maybe. I'm not sure they make a decent durometer material in a "self application" package....

caverman · 06-22-2011, 01:09 PM

Not that I would use them again but I got a set of Energy Suspension inserts shipped to my door for $100. That's just a little more than what was mentioned for the cost of doing this.

My personal opinion is that I would use the Engergy before doing this but then again I would suggest saving the money for the Pedders inserts or just do a full bushing replacement.

Thats me though.....

axis · 06-22-2011, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caverman

Not that I would use them again but I got a set of Energy Suspension inserts shipped to my door for $100. That's just a little more than what was mentioned for the cost of doing this. .....

And we all saw how well they worked out for ya,

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06-21-2011, 10:38 PM	#1
DietCoke Slow Turtle Drives: 2011 1SS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 1,123	Urethane filling subframe inserts Doing mine this weekend, surprised there aren't more people doing it this way. It's cheaper then buying inserts, and does the same thing. Downside is you have to completely remove the subframe to do it. __________________ LSXOCET - 404rwhp @ 1600 lbs curb weight... bonkers fast https://www.facebook.com/lsxocet

06-21-2011, 10:40 PM	#2
DietCoke Slow Turtle Drives: 2011 1SS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 1,123	http://www.amazon.com/Auto-Products-.../dp/B000CQ6IG2 Most parts stores stock it as well. I got two tubes, should be plenty to do the subframe and diff bushings. __________________ LSXOCET - 404rwhp @ 1600 lbs curb weight... bonkers fast https://www.facebook.com/lsxocet

06-21-2011, 11:28 PM	#3
DietCoke Slow Turtle Drives: 2011 1SS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 1,123	I'll even take a few pictures to document. __________________ LSXOCET - 404rwhp @ 1600 lbs curb weight... bonkers fast https://www.facebook.com/lsxocet

06-22-2011, 12:34 AM	#4
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	We use to do this to our motormounts, back in the day. Should be fine as long as you give it plenty of time to set up. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

06-22-2011, 12:37 AM	#5
DietCoke Slow Turtle Drives: 2011 1SS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 1,123	It's a 24-48 hour cure time. Will have several weeks to sit, so it's all good @Motor mount comment : I've done several tired old motor/tranny mounts on several cars with this stuff. Brings them back to life for sure and limits motion greatly. Cant beat it for the cost __________________ LSXOCET - 404rwhp @ 1600 lbs curb weight... bonkers fast https://www.facebook.com/lsxocet

06-22-2011, 07:49 AM	#6
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	I mentioned doing this in a thread not long ago but no one replied to it. Seems like a feaseble alternative to doing the inserts and as you mentioned, considerably cheaper. The only issue I see is the possible hassle of getting it out if you deside to go with full bushing replacements. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

06-22-2011, 09:15 AM	#8
steeleshark2 Drives: 2010 Transformer 1SS Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Kingsland, Ga Posts: 2,553 View My Garage	If I had to remove the subframe anyway, I would just replace the bushings with polys. __________________ Build page:http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...77#post3083477

06-22-2011, 10:43 AM	#10
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	Yep, durability is probably gonna be an issue. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

06-22-2011, 01:09 PM	#13
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	Not that I would use them again but I got a set of Energy Suspension inserts shipped to my door for $100. That's just a little more than what was mentioned for the cost of doing this. My personal opinion is that I would use the Engergy before doing this but then again I would suggest saving the money for the Pedders inserts or just do a full bushing replacement. Thats me though..... __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

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