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Mr Twisty · 06-26-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by trooper182

Well we are all entitled to our opinions. Even if I do not agree with him I still respect him for at least giving his honest opinion. Oh and trust me after I drew I picked a spot on the ground in front of me and if he would have crossed it...

Wanna sober up real quick? Have someone point a .45 at your head

evolve · 06-26-2013, 05:06 PM

Agree with the OPs decision to protect family and self. As someone that also serves (USN), I know what you mean about being armed here (I have a CCW for FL) and being over "there". Its more of an aggressive adrenaline rush here because you don't want things like that to happen, over there you almost anticipate it. I think you made a great choice being as the other person was armed. It would be no different if he had a knife.

MLL67RSSS · 06-26-2013, 05:13 PM

I usually won't post in these threads but I have two thoughts:

1. You did what you had to do.

2. That is just about the most articulate, well written, grammatically correct post I think I've EVER read on the internet. GOD BLESS YOU SIR! And thank you for your service to this country.

ChrisBlair · 06-26-2013, 05:51 PM

I agree with your actions but in certain places that would be 'brandishing' and a crime.

trooper182 · 06-26-2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

I agree with your actions but in certain places that would be 'brandishing' and a crime.

Most places define 'brandishing' as a person exhibiting any deadly or dangerous weapon in a rude, angry or threatening manner. In this case I was justified as I drew my weapon after being confronted with a weapon that could have cause myself or my family bodily harm. By rapidly walking toward me the person displayed a want to cause me harm. Now if I would have merely raised my shirt up to show the fact that I was carrying, that would be brandishing. If I am walking down the street and my shirt blew up because of the wind and someone saw it, again brandishing. If the act of drawing a weapon in defense of oneself after being attacked was brandishing, there would be no CC allowed. Brandishing is a slippery slope. In my situation if the person would have just grabbed the piece of metal and stood by the truck and not approached me and I drew my weapon, yes I could have been charged with brandishing. Slippery slope.

ChrisBlair · 06-26-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by trooper182

Most places define 'brandishing' as a person exhibiting any deadly or dangerous weapon in a rude, angry or threatening manner. In this case I was justified as I drew my weapon after being confronted with a weapon that could have cause myself or my family bodily harm. By rapidly walking toward me the person displayed a want to cause me harm. Now if I would have merely raised my shirt up to show the fact that I was carrying, that would be brandishing. If I am walking down the street and my shirt blew up because of the wind and someone saw it, again brandishing. If the act of drawing a weapon in defense of oneself after being attacked was brandishing, there would be no CC allowed. Brandishing is a slippery slope. In my situation if the person would have just grabbed the piece of metal and stood by the truck and not approached me and I drew my weapon, yes I could have been charged with brandishing. Slippery slope.

Understood and I agree. But in some places, still...brandishing.

I posted not for your benefit, actually, but as a general- "good going but we all need to know our local laws" type of thing

2010SS2SS · 06-26-2013, 06:19 PM

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First off, I am sorry this happened to you and your family. There is absolutely no excuse for this type of behavior. However, drawing your weapon in this situation seems a little much IMHO.

NOT AT ALL! A person with 21ft of you can close that distance before you have time to react. You were well within your rights of personal defense since he had a weapon.

Maxspeed · 06-26-2013, 06:43 PM

JasonK · 06-26-2013, 11:03 PM

Congrats and Proud to read your story. The courage to draw must have really been something.

In Kansas it's force upon force. Pretty sure it would have ended differently here. Even though I would have probably done the same.

14pilot · 06-27-2013, 01:13 AM

Good job OP !!!

Thank you for refusing to be a victim and staying within the law while taking up for yourself and your family.

Front sight, front sight, front sight...

HookemHorns · 06-27-2013, 09:52 AM

Thank you for your service, it is greatly appreciated. I feel you were totally in the right to draw your weapon as you provided the opportunity for the aggressor to stand down.

whiteboydrew · 06-30-2013, 01:35 PM

i woulda done the same

GSUNCSU · 06-30-2013, 02:36 PM

This is text book of how to handle the situation, now if you had not had the gun, the perp would have probably had a piece of scrap metal sticking out of his fourth point of contact, I'm pretty sure. When I got my CHL, I also bought the insurance to be represented if I needed to use it, hopefully I never will, but I hope I am as cool under pressure as the OP was. And for those with dissenting opinions, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, I refuse to be a sheeple or a victim, better to be a sheep dog... HOOAH!

06-26-2013, 05:06 PM	#72
evolve Drives: 03 Cobra Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cyber Space Posts: 508	Agree with the OPs decision to protect family and self. As someone that also serves (USN), I know what you mean about being armed here (I have a CCW for FL) and being over "there". Its more of an aggressive adrenaline rush here because you don't want things like that to happen, over there you almost anticipate it. I think you made a great choice being as the other person was armed. It would be no different if he had a knife. __________________ 2003 Cobra (Stock Motor/Boost Only) 640rwhp/ 550rwtq on 93... Well over 700rwhp on CORN

06-26-2013, 05:51 PM	#74
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06-26-2013, 11:03 PM	#79
JasonK Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 713 View My Garage	Congrats and Proud to read your story. The courage to draw must have really been something. In Kansas it's force upon force. Pretty sure it would have ended differently here. Even though I would have probably done the same. __________________ 2015 Sentra / 2015 Murano / 2012 HD Ultra Classic / 1995 Z71 / 1966 Mustang

06-30-2013, 02:36 PM	#83
GSUNCSU Watch This! Drives: Super Charged 1SS/RS, M6, CGM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Columbus, GA Posts: 777 View My Garage	This is text book of how to handle the situation, now if you had not had the gun, the perp would have probably had a piece of scrap metal sticking out of his fourth point of contact, I'm pretty sure. When I got my CHL, I also bought the insurance to be represented if I needed to use it, hopefully I never will, but I hope I am as cool under pressure as the OP was. And for those with dissenting opinions, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, I refuse to be a sheeple or a victim, better to be a sheep dog... HOOAH! __________________ K&N CAI, Wet Okole Seat Covers, MagnaFlow Street Perf. Ex. (Axle Back), MPD Hood, Gary's Customz ZL1 Fascia/Vented Fenders/Custom Stripes/Paint, AAC Afterburners/Fog Light Halos/Side Markers/Misc LEDs, Bee-Otch Air Freshener, Hurst Shifter and Line-Loc(APEX), RPI Splash Guards, MagnaCharger *(Texas-Speed)(Installed by ME),* Rx Catch Can and Breather, Billet Pulleys (SC2150), ARH Headers, LPE Twin Fuel Pump, Custom Blower Cam, Custom Tune TBArwhp, TBArwtorq, Boost Gauge and Single Pod (MTI)

06-26-2013, 05:13 PM	#73
MLL67RSSS Account Suspended Drives: car Join Date: May 2008 Location: location Posts: 1,574	I usually won't post in these threads but I have two thoughts: 1. You did what you had to do. 2. That is just about the most articulate, well written, grammatically correct post I think I've EVER read on the internet. GOD BLESS YOU SIR! And thank you for your service to this country.

06-27-2013, 09:52 AM	#81
HookemHorns Drives: 2023 Camaro ZL1 Red Hot Convertible Join Date: May 2011 Location: Arkansas Posts: 859	Thank you for your service, it is greatly appreciated. I feel you were totally in the right to draw your weapon as you provided the opportunity for the aggressor to stand down.

06-30-2013, 01:35 PM	#82
whiteboydrew Drives: 2013 Black SS navi Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: san francsco Posts: 8	i woulda done the same