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55Designs · 11-03-2009, 10:23 AM

I never drove one of these cars in stock form so I cant comment on the original shifter.

At around 3500RPM the shifter makes a ton of noise from below like chatter rattling sounds. Also the shifter does not like when you hold pressure on the knob when it gear.

Chevy dealer installed this and I wonder if they did something wrong because this feels exactly like my old 1969 SS 369 with 4 speed rock crusher gearbox with Hurst Shifter.

Kwaz1335 · 11-03-2009, 10:47 AM

I would lift the gauge cluster up and over the shifter to the right side and unscrew the shifter boot. Take a look to see if the screws on the shifter handle have worked their way loose. This was happening to me a lot when the washers that hurst provides were in between the bolt and the shifter handle. I solved the problem by moving the washers from the outside of the shifter handle to in between the shifter handle and the shift pivot arm making sure that the ridges of the shifter arm and the shift pivot arm were aligned. I then torqued the bolts down real tight. The shifter is always going to make noise no matter what you try to do...as the hurst eliminates much of the sound dampening materials you get with your stock shifter. Your also going to feel more..so when your in second and you feel like your shifter dose not like it...its really not a big deal...it always did it..you were just insulated from bolth the sound and feel of it happening.

Partick · 11-03-2009, 11:02 AM

Could be the dust boot underneath the car, a previous post said it came lose and was making a lot of noise.

55Designs · 11-03-2009, 11:36 AM

installing the skip shift thing tomorow I will have the guys get under the car and check to see whats going on.

Everyone tells me this is normal for a Tremec. I am just not used to it.

ffrcobra_65 · 11-03-2009, 12:49 PM

I love the way it shifts. Mine was installed a week ago by Hurst employees and I am starting to find the chatter/rattle annoying when accelerating hard in 2nd and 3rd gear where it is specially noisy. Yes, I know little ratttle is normal with Hurst shifter but mine I think mine is excessive to the point you can hear it over loud music. I stopped resting my hand on the knob because applying any pressure on the shifter makes the rattle worse. I trusted they knew what they were doing so I would be pissed if something came loose that is causing excessive rattle.

55Designs · 11-03-2009, 03:41 PM

Wow thats wild they even installed yours and it rattles. I think we should call HURST after SEMA on Monday.

fixxxer525 · 11-03-2009, 05:02 PM

I was going to buy a Hurst shifter, but now I may be looking at others. You would figure they would try to fix this "problem" when people started complaining about the rattle.

Partick · 11-03-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fixxxer525

I was going to buy a Hurst shifter, but now I may be looking at others. You would figure they would try to fix this "problem" when people started complaining about the rattle.

Wait a minute who says there is a problem? There are as many if not more people chiming in who aren't experincing issues than those who are. It could be a number things including installation. The 'rattle' or vibration is slight on hard acceleration and can be addressed with something like Dynomat although it reminds me of my old M21 with Hurst Comp Plus shifter. I'm extremely pleased with mine!

BackinBlackSS/RS · 11-03-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 55Designs

I wonder if they did something wrong because this feels exactly like my old 1969 SS 369 with 4 speed rock crusher gearbox with Hurst Shifter.

Man! That can't be a bad thing. Rock crusher FTMFW!!!!!!!!

ffrcobra_65 · 11-03-2009, 05:48 PM

Don't get me wrong guys, I like the Hurst better than the stock, despite the rattly noise at certain RPMs.

The issue may not have anything to do with installation error or something coming loose. I am guessing that for some people, they describe the rattle as "slight" but the same slight noise to others such as myself, is excessive eventhough the noise level is actually the same... just a difference in perception. One thing for sure, if you don't get used to it, it will start to become annoying.

The rattle noise is nothing new to Hurst shifters. I read a ton of threads in Mustang forums about it....after I had it installed.

fixxxer525 · 11-03-2009, 06:04 PM

I haven't read anything about MGW shifter or other brand with rattling noise(s). I'm just saying, in my opinion, x amount of Hurst customers are complaining about the rattling noise. Shouldn't someone at that company start looking into maybe making a solution or make a version 2 of it. Me, I'm not going to buy an item or product that's going to annoy the shit out me. Others may not mind the rattling but its knowingthe fact that when you start shifting and putting your hand on the shifter increases the rattling annoyance.

55Designs · 11-03-2009, 07:13 PM

Called Hurst and they said its normal. To be honest I would accept that on a vintage car not a $42k 2010 model.

I need to speak with MGW to see if their system eliminates all of this. I drive alot and do like to have my hand on the shifter its just a habit. Maybe if the MGW will gaurantee it wont work like the Hurst Id buy it and adapt the Hurst knob or something.

As cool as the Hurst is it is starting to annoy me.

bpoirier · 11-03-2009, 11:45 PM

I have a MGW shifter and it is smooth and quiet. Shifts are firm and crisp. I have no complaints what so ever.

RobertHarriSS · 11-04-2009, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpoirier

I have a MGW shifter and it is smooth and quiet. Shifts are firm and crisp. I have no complaints what so ever.

Me too. The MGW is SWEET!

11-03-2009, 10:23 AM	#1
55Designs Drives: 2010 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 990	Eratic chatter and noise under load from under shifter, Hurst! I never drove one of these cars in stock form so I cant comment on the original shifter. At around 3500RPM the shifter makes a ton of noise from below like chatter rattling sounds. Also the shifter does not like when you hold pressure on the knob when it gear. Chevy dealer installed this and I wonder if they did something wrong because this feels exactly like my old 1969 SS 369 with 4 speed rock crusher gearbox with Hurst Shifter.

11-03-2009, 10:47 AM	#2
Kwaz1335 The Kwaz Drives: Black 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 259 View My Garage	I would lift the gauge cluster up and over the shifter to the right side and unscrew the shifter boot. Take a look to see if the screws on the shifter handle have worked their way loose. This was happening to me a lot when the washers that hurst provides were in between the bolt and the shifter handle. I solved the problem by moving the washers from the outside of the shifter handle to in between the shifter handle and the shift pivot arm making sure that the ridges of the shifter arm and the shift pivot arm were aligned. I then torqued the bolts down real tight. The shifter is always going to make noise no matter what you try to do...as the hurst eliminates much of the sound dampening materials you get with your stock shifter. Your also going to feel more..so when your in second and you feel like your shifter dose not like it...its really not a big deal...it always did it..you were just insulated from bolth the sound and feel of it happening. __________________ Ordered:3/13/09 1100: 3/13/09 3300: 5/12/09 Picked up and brought home 6/26/2009 2010 Black on Black SS/RS Camaro Silver stripe package Ground effects package 6 Speed Manual Transmission with Hurst short throw, Magnuson Supercharger, SLP loudmouth 1 kit.

11-03-2009, 11:02 AM	#3
Partick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 958	Could be the dust boot underneath the car, a previous post said it came lose and was making a lot of noise.

11-03-2009, 11:36 AM	#4
55Designs Drives: 2010 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 990	installing the skip shift thing tomorow I will have the guys get under the car and check to see whats going on. Everyone tells me this is normal for a Tremec. I am just not used to it.

11-03-2009, 12:49 PM	#5
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,094	I love the way it shifts. Mine was installed a week ago by Hurst employees and I am starting to find the chatter/rattle annoying when accelerating hard in 2nd and 3rd gear where it is specially noisy. Yes, I know little ratttle is normal with Hurst shifter but mine I think mine is excessive to the point you can hear it over loud music. I stopped resting my hand on the knob because applying any pressure on the shifter makes the rattle worse. I trusted they knew what they were doing so I would be pissed if something came loose that is causing excessive rattle.

11-03-2009, 03:41 PM	#6
55Designs Drives: 2010 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 990	Wow thats wild they even installed yours and it rattles. I think we should call HURST after SEMA on Monday.

11-03-2009, 05:02 PM	#7
fixxxer525 Account Suspended Drives: 01S10,01CBR600,05Ducati, 10 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 377	I was going to buy a Hurst shifter, but now I may be looking at others. You would figure they would try to fix this "problem" when people started complaining about the rattle.

11-03-2009, 05:48 PM	#10
ffrcobra_65 Account Suspended Drives: SuperCharged 2SS/RS IOM MN6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 5,094	Don't get me wrong guys, I like the Hurst better than the stock, despite the rattly noise at certain RPMs. The issue may not have anything to do with installation error or something coming loose. I am guessing that for some people, they describe the rattle as "slight" but the same slight noise to others such as myself, is excessive eventhough the noise level is actually the same... just a difference in perception. One thing for sure, if you don't get used to it, it will start to become annoying. The rattle noise is nothing new to Hurst shifters. I read a ton of threads in Mustang forums about it....after I had it installed.

11-03-2009, 06:04 PM	#11
fixxxer525 Account Suspended Drives: 01S10,01CBR600,05Ducati, 10 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 377	I haven't read anything about MGW shifter or other brand with rattling noise(s). I'm just saying, in my opinion, x amount of Hurst customers are complaining about the rattling noise. Shouldn't someone at that company start looking into maybe making a solution or make a version 2 of it. Me, I'm not going to buy an item or product that's going to annoy the shit out me. Others may not mind the rattling but its knowingthe fact that when you start shifting and putting your hand on the shifter increases the rattling annoyance.

11-03-2009, 07:13 PM	#12
55Designs Drives: 2010 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 990	Called Hurst and they said its normal. To be honest I would accept that on a vintage car not a $42k 2010 model. I need to speak with MGW to see if their system eliminates all of this. I drive alot and do like to have my hand on the shifter its just a habit. Maybe if the MGW will gaurantee it wont work like the Hurst Id buy it and adapt the Hurst knob or something. As cool as the Hurst is it is starting to annoy me.

11-03-2009, 11:45 PM	#13
bpoirier Drives: 2SS/RS IOM CGM Stripes Join Date: May 2009 Location: Haughton, LA Posts: 931	I have a MGW shifter and it is smooth and quiet. Shifts are firm and crisp. I have no complaints what so ever.