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CamaroSkooter · 08-29-2013, 08:20 AM

You'd think they could make turbo's that turn counter-clockwise to make the install on the passenger's side exactly mirrored to the driver's side...

*SSE 4 2SS* · 08-29-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

Are those precision waste gates crap?

no they're actually very good waste gates... I cooked the hell out of one and it still worked great... Still not sure what happened, but the black cover was golden colored... We all scratched our heads on that one...

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Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

You'd think they could make turbo's that turn counter-clockwise to make the install on the passenger's side exactly mirrored to the driver's side...

That can be done if the pockets are deep enough... But they have to build a special mold and all the machining stuu to go along with...

Very expensive...

CamaroSkooter · 08-29-2013, 11:06 AM

It can't be that difficult. Turbo manufacturer's are constantly tweaking their designs to improve performance. And each tweak requires a new mold and tooling.

I have to assume that at this point in time, all turbocharger designs are created in a CAD program. And I can guarantee you that it is incredibly simple to mirror a design in any and all CAD programs. In most cases, it's literally one click of the button.

So, if they're already creating new molds every time they tweak a design for better performance, why not create a second mold that's an identical mirror of the original. No additional design has to be done because it will flow exactly the same.

That's all I was getting at. At this stage in the game, you're absolutely right that it would cost a crapton to have one custom designed by a company that doesn't already make one. I just find it strange that turbo manufacturer's would refrain from creating a symmetrical system. (See: Nelson Racing)

CamaroSkooter · 08-29-2013, 11:15 AM

Don't get me wrong, I think your setup is friggin bad ass, it was just one of those little things that probably makes me think about it more than I should

*SSE 4 2SS* · 08-29-2013, 11:23 AM

You're right... Those are tooled from the start with that in mind... Most manufacturers don't do that, so I'm my case it would be a one off... Not very accommodating to the twins market... Hmmmm

CamaroSkooter · 08-29-2013, 01:31 PM

I take it the twins market isn't as large as I originally thought

*SSE 4 2SS* · 08-29-2013, 01:43 PM

Its Growing But Still Small in The GraNd Scheme.... Ricers Only Use One Snail...DamnPhoneIsOnCrack Right now

CamaroSkooter · 08-29-2013, 03:11 PM

I Don't Think I've Ever Seen That Happen Before.

*SSE 4 2SS* · 08-29-2013, 03:20 PM

I think it's suffering droid rage...

CamaroSkooter · 08-29-2013, 03:21 PM

Mine doesn't need performance enhancing drugs

*SSE 4 2SS* · 08-29-2013, 05:21 PM

Hell, mine needs turbos to keep up with yours...

Mr Twisty · 08-29-2013, 06:48 PM

Nelson mirrors turbo's... ask speedster how much they are... my first guess would be, a LOT lol

http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/p...ochargers.html

... so... what was the deal with the wastegate pic? Other than the cool tattoo

*SSE 4 2SS* · 08-29-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

Nelson mirrors turbo's... ask speedster how much they are... my first guess would be, a LOT lol

http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/p...ochargers.html

... so... what was the deal with the wastegate pic? Other than the cool tattoo

That's the link CS added in... I can't imagine what they cost... And is it something we could get overnighted if needed...

Mr Twisty · 08-29-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SSE 4 2SS

That's the link CS added in... I can't imagine what they cost... And is it something we could get overnighted if needed...

My bad... hey if it's working as-is, leave it alone, although, in a fresh build it probably would make installation easier since you're mirroring a side you already fabbed.

08-29-2013, 08:20 AM	#7057
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	You'd think they could make turbo's that turn counter-clockwise to make the install on the passenger's side exactly mirrored to the driver's side... __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

08-29-2013, 11:06 AM	#7059
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	It can't be that difficult. Turbo manufacturer's are constantly tweaking their designs to improve performance. And each tweak requires a new mold and tooling. I have to assume that at this point in time, all turbocharger designs are created in a CAD program. And I can guarantee you that it is incredibly simple to mirror a design in any and all CAD programs. In most cases, it's literally one click of the button. So, if they're already creating new molds every time they tweak a design for better performance, why not create a second mold that's an identical mirror of the original. No additional design has to be done because it will flow exactly the same. That's all I was getting at. At this stage in the game, you're absolutely right that it would cost a crapton to have one custom designed by a company that doesn't already make one. I just find it strange that turbo manufacturer's would refrain from creating a symmetrical system. (See: Nelson Racing) __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

08-29-2013, 11:15 AM	#7060
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	Don't get me wrong, I think your setup is friggin bad ass, it was just one of those little things that probably makes me think about it more than I should __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

08-29-2013, 11:23 AM	#7061
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,492	You're right... Those are tooled from the start with that in mind... Most manufacturers don't do that, so I'm my case it would be a one off... Not very accommodating to the twins market... Hmmmm __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

08-29-2013, 01:31 PM	#7062
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	I take it the twins market isn't as large as I originally thought __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

08-29-2013, 01:43 PM	#7063
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,492	Its Growing But Still Small in The GraNd Scheme.... Ricers Only Use One Snail...DamnPhoneIsOnCrack Right now __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

08-29-2013, 03:11 PM	#7064
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	I Don't Think I've Ever Seen That Happen Before. __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

08-29-2013, 03:20 PM	#7065
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,492	I think it's suffering droid rage... __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

08-29-2013, 03:21 PM	#7066
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	Mine doesn't need performance enhancing drugs __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

08-29-2013, 05:21 PM	#7067
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,492	Hell, mine needs turbos to keep up with yours... __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

08-29-2013, 06:48 PM	#7068
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	Nelson mirrors turbo's... ask speedster how much they are... my first guess would be, a LOT lol http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/p...ochargers.html ... so... what was the deal with the wastegate pic? Other than the cool tattoo __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin