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Mchlgrrsn · 08-17-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Methanol on a Maggie and a centri are two completely differently animals. While it works well on a centri the results aren't all that impressive with the maggie. I don't understand why people feel the need to compare apples with oranges.

I don't believe anyone said that meth didn't work. The results vary for each individual application.

Yup ^^^^. Spraying pre blower is not nearly as effective (as far as IAT goes), which would be the application with Maggie.

BLACK10 · 08-18-2013, 08:54 PM

Meth on a maggie will basically keep the iat's steady and keep them from reaching the crazy 170+* temps they can produce . It wont cool as well as a centri (dropping 30-50*), but it is effective
If you want constant lower iat's install a chiller....

BLACK10 · 08-18-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by unforgiven

meth is all fun and games until someone lose's an eye,
or a motor.

Again, if it is tuned and installed properly there will be no issues. You cant just throw a meth kit on a boosted motor and not adjust the tune for it

Mchlgrrsn · 08-18-2013, 09:52 PM

[QUOTE=BLACK10;6913665]Meth on a maggie will basically keep the iat's steady and keep them from reaching the crazy 170+* temps they can produce . It wont cool as well as a centri (dropping 30-50*), but it is effective
If you want constant lower iat's install a chiller....

Chiller is on the way .. I'm looking forward to see what it can do.

old motorhead · 08-18-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BLACK10

Again, if it is tuned and installed properly there will be no issues. You cant just throw a meth kit on a boosted motor and not adjust the tune for it

Again..... if there's little change in the IAT's using meth with a Maggie, how do you tune for it safely? That's kinda what this thread is about. What meth does with centri's and turbo's isn't really relevant to this thread. Meth is great. Centri's and turbo's are great. No disputing that. But, the question, regarding meth with Maggie, remains....

AL1SS/RS · 08-19-2013, 06:50 AM

I'm on the fench about this as well ,
want to here more .

Adadda · 08-19-2013, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACK10

Meth on a maggie will basically keep the iat's steady and keep them from reaching the crazy 170+* temps they can produce . It wont cool as well as a centri (dropping 30-50*), but it is effective
If you want constant lower iat's install a chiller....

the problem I have with that video is yes it shows the meth cooling the intake pipe no doubt. but on a maggie the inlet air is compressed after the blower so basically the meth is cooling the intake charge but the effects are not that great because it is being heated again after going in the blower and the charge gets compressed .and you loose the misting effect of the meth. it will still help with octane but cooling not so much . I am a meth user and swear by it but I also have a centri

SmokedSS · 08-19-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Adadda

the problem I have with that video is yes it shows the meth cooling the intake pipe no doubt. but on a maggie the inlet air is compressed after the blower so basically the meth is cooling the intake charge but the effects are not that great because it is being heated again after going in the blower and the charge gets compressed .and you loose the misting effect of the meth. it will still help with octane but cooling not so much . I am a meth user and swear by it but I also have a centri

That's my intake in the video and I agree you will not get as much cooling with the Maggie as with a Centri nor will you see the BIG increase in HP numbers but what I did see with it was on a nice HOT south Louisiana day it consistantly kept my IAT's down under 120F by the end of the 1/4 running 12psi boost. With that I didn't start loosing any HP on the big end and I see that as a gain.

Inferno LSX · 08-19-2013, 09:42 AM

It's also gets rid of heat soak problems. I spray on my Whipple and I don't think I've seen anything over 120* on my IAT making 12PSI. I've kept a eye on my IAT using a Ultra Gauge.

Supercharged SS · 08-19-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokedSS

That's my intake in the video and I agree you will not get as much cooling with the Maggie as with a Centri nor will you see the BIG increase in HP numbers but what I did see with it was on a nice HOT south Louisiana day it consistantly kept my IAT's down under 120F by the end of the 1/4 running 12psi boost. With that I didn't start loosing any HP on the big end and I see that as a gain.

What were the iats without the meth?

SmokedSS · 08-19-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

What were the iats without the meth?

I have seen them up around 150 with 6psi boost.. After meth IAT's around 80 staging and then by end of run might hit 120 on a hot day but I also pulleyed down same time I added meth so this was @ 12psi boost and not 6psi. Different subject but now with meth and superchiller IAT's haven't topped 80 @ end of run.

Mchlgrrsn · 08-19-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokedSS

I have seen them up around 150 with 6psi boost.. After meth IAT's around 80 staging and then by end of run might hit 120 on a hot day but I also pulleyed down same time I added meth so this was @ 12psi boost and not 6psi. Different subject but now with meth and superchiller IAT's haven't topped 80 @ end of run.

We'll that's encouraging. I see the same 150 plus. I ordered a super chiller, still waiting for it to be shipped. Did you put chiller and meth on at the same time ? Or did you do one and it wasn't enough so added the other ?

SmokedSS · 08-19-2013, 06:10 PM

Meth 1st and then later did the Super Chiller.. With both on a 70-80f day @ the track my cars IATs will be around 120 between rounds when I crank it. After a few minutes idling they will drop to around 40f and after a good burnout, staging, and 1/4 mile run they have not gone above 80 so far. Meth kept me around 120 and with both I stay around 80f.

Mchlgrrsn · 08-19-2013, 06:29 PM

Thanks. Good info.

08-18-2013, 08:54 PM	#44
BLACK10 Drives: 2010 CAMARO. 10.04@133mph, 1.4 60' Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 4,585	Meth on a maggie will basically keep the iat's steady and keep them from reaching the crazy 170+* temps they can produce . It wont cool as well as a centri (dropping 30-50), but it is effective If you want constant lower iat's install a chiller.... Last edited by BLACK10; 08-18-2013 at 09:17 PM.*

08-18-2013, 09:52 PM	#46
Mchlgrrsn Stroked and blown Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,458 View My Garage	[QUOTE=BLACK10;6913665]Meth on a maggie will basically keep the iat's steady and keep them from reaching the crazy 170+* temps they can produce . It wont cool as well as a centri (dropping 30-50*), but it is effective If you want constant lower iat's install a chiller.... Chiller is on the way .. I'm looking forward to see what it can do. __________________ LME 416 LS3 shortblock/Callies Compstar 4340 4"crank/Callies 6.125 H beams rods/Wiesco 4.07 forged pistons/Cam Motion custom LS1/LME ported heads /maggie TVS2300/I West 8rib 10%OD /3.2 pulley/OD cog drive/JRE tensioner/ID850 /ADM dual fuel/Kooks LT 1 7/8/magna flow2.5 /cat delete/Roto Fab CAI /MGW short throw /SPEC super twin clutch/G Force built trans,carbon syncro rear shaft upgrade /DSS 9"single CF DS /Strange 3.70/31 spline trutrac/MT DR's/earls oil cooler /tuned KHC

08-19-2013, 06:50 AM	#48
AL1SS/RS Drives: 2012 camaro 1SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Downingtown pa. Posts: 94	I'm on the fench about this as well , want to here more . __________________

08-19-2013, 09:42 AM	#51
Inferno LSX Supercharged LSX Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Black/Carbon Fiber Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: City of Angels Posts: 6,741 View My Garage	It's also gets rid of heat soak problems. I spray on my Whipple and I don't think I've seen anything over 120* on my IAT making 12PSI. I've kept a eye on my IAT using a Ultra Gauge. __________________

08-19-2013, 06:29 PM	#56
Mchlgrrsn Stroked and blown Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,458 View My Garage	Thanks. Good info. __________________ LME 416 LS3 shortblock/Callies Compstar 4340 4"crank/Callies 6.125 H beams rods/Wiesco 4.07 forged pistons/Cam Motion custom LS1/LME ported heads /maggie TVS2300/I West 8rib 10%OD /3.2 pulley/OD cog drive/JRE tensioner/ID850 /ADM dual fuel/Kooks LT 1 7/8/magna flow2.5 /cat delete/Roto Fab CAI /MGW short throw /SPEC super twin clutch/G Force built trans,carbon syncro rear shaft upgrade /DSS 9"single CF DS /Strange 3.70/31 spline trutrac/MT DR's/earls oil cooler /tuned KHC

08-19-2013, 06:10 PM	#55
SmokedSS Guest Drives: 2011 2SS / RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Moving On Posts: 464 View My Garage	Meth 1st and then later did the Super Chiller.. With both on a 70-80f day @ the track my cars IATs will be around 120 between rounds when I crank it. After a few minutes idling they will drop to around 40f and after a good burnout, staging, and 1/4 mile run they have not gone above 80 so far. Meth kept me around 120 and with both I stay around 80f.