Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Roto-Fab
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-01-2013, 03:10 AM   #1
MY2012RS
 
MY2012RS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 1LT
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Long Island
Posts: 322
Anybody use e85 fuel?

A local gas station by me has just started selling e85 fuel. It's like 60 cents a gallon cheaper. Anybody with a 2012 V6 use it yet and does it have any effect on performance. Don't know too much about it. Any insight would be helpful. I would like to save on gas money if I could use it all the time
__________________
MY2012RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 03:30 AM   #2
Glen e
Retired from Car mfrs....
 
Glen e's Avatar
 
Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V
Join Date: May 2013
Location: /Fort Lauderdale
Posts: 10,048
stay away - you car is not made for it...
Glen e is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 03:33 AM   #3
axis
Search Ninja
 
axis's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Central Ark
Posts: 7,183
There's tons of information on E85 available. You not knowing much about it is because you haven't looked. Not counting the fact that your car isn't setup for running it, it's actually more expensive to run it on a DD. While it may be cheaper by the gallon, you have to physically use more of it equal what you get from gas, hense less MPG's. If it truly is 60cents cheaper around you, you might break even. Around here, the difference is quite a bit less.
__________________
2010 Black 2SS/RS A6
Halltech CF 102 fed
GPI modded intake manifold
Bo (knows) White ported TB
Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT
Pfadted (springs/sways)
Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI

I once parallel parked a train.
axis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 05:52 AM   #4
baum
 
Drives: 2013 1LS, 2013 Ram 1500
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Minneapolis, mn
Posts: 645
Even if the camaro could take e85 its not worth it unless the cost of the gas is about 40-45% cheaper than standard gas (thats about the break even point). it may be cheaper, but you suffer in gas milage BIG time!
baum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 06:11 AM   #5
Ryanbabz71


 
Ryanbabz71's Avatar
 
Drives: 2018 Hyper Blue 1SS 1LE
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
Posts: 6,231
Quote:
Originally Posted by baum View Post
Even if the camaro could take e85 its not worth it unless the cost of the gas is about 40-45% cheaper than standard gas (thats about the break even point). it may be cheaper, but you suffer in gas milage BIG time!
I have run E85 in my truck 100% since the Summer of 2010. It is either E85 or premium with the 6.2. I get 14% less mpg with E85 but with price I at least break even. Currently E85 is $1.00 a gallon cheaper so it is actually costing quite a bit less at the moment .
__________________
Ryan
* 2018 1SS 1LE Camaro Hyper Blue Metallic
Car Build: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showth...0#post10049680
Ryanbabz71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 07:31 AM   #6
JR 1

 
JR 1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Convertible
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Lake Orion, MI
Posts: 1,247
Forget about cost and mileage. None of the Camaro engines were made to run on E85 and it will corrode your fuel system seals and possibley cause other problems. Ethanol is much more corrosive than gasoline and engines meant to run on E85 are engineered accordingly.
JR 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 08:17 AM   #7
baum
 
Drives: 2013 1LS, 2013 Ram 1500
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Minneapolis, mn
Posts: 645
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryanbabz71 View Post
I have run E85 in my truck 100% since the Summer of 2010. It is either E85 or premium with the 6.2. I get 14% less mpg with E85 but with price I at least break even. Currently E85 is $1.00 a gallon cheaper so it is actually costing quite a bit less at the moment .
At that price your atleast at the break even point.

around me its a joke currently e85 is only about 0.25 cheaper than regular. so its not worth it. My durango i can run it in also, but never have for that reason.
baum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 08:35 AM   #8
Gtkilrss
 
Gtkilrss's Avatar
 
Drives: 2016 SS
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Blackwell, OK
Posts: 400
my motors bout to be corn fed!!
__________________
Gtkilrss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 08:54 AM   #9
wakespeak

 
wakespeak's Avatar
 
Drives: 2020 ZL1 1LE
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,335
I was researching this yesterday actually. There is a guy on the Corvette sites and his LS3 has no issues and is tuned to take advantage of the higher octane. +40 rwhp. The fuel system apparently has no problems with it, just the computer is not able to switch back and forth in stock form like other GM engines.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...e-ls3-mnl.html
wakespeak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 09:09 AM   #10
JCunningham


 
JCunningham's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 2SS M6
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: WNY
Posts: 7,070
the injectors in e85 vehicles are much much bigger because you need more fuel to drive the same speed. you would need bigger injectors and a tune to spend the same amount on gas. e85 also collects water so in a car designed to be a pleasure vehicle its not a good thing.
__________________
real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1
JCunningham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 03:44 PM   #11
Ryanbabz71


 
Ryanbabz71's Avatar
 
Drives: 2018 Hyper Blue 1SS 1LE
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
Posts: 6,231
Quote:
Originally Posted by baum View Post
At that price your atleast at the break even point.

around me its a joke currently e85 is only about 0.25 cheaper than regular. so its not worth it. My durango i can run it in also, but never have for that reason.
60 cents is my break even on the truck. Our Tahoe was 50 cents


Ryan
__________________
Ryan
* 2018 1SS 1LE Camaro Hyper Blue Metallic
Car Build: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showth...0#post10049680
Ryanbabz71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 03:52 PM   #12
Blau camaro
Account Suspended
 
Blau camaro's Avatar
 
Drives: #1 CAMARO FAN
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Rockford IL.
Posts: 656
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR 1 View Post
Forget about cost and mileage. None of the Camaro engines were made to run on E85 and it will corrode your fuel system seals and possibley cause other problems. Ethanol is much more corrosive than gasoline and engines meant to run on E85 are engineered accordingly.
I would never run e-85 in a car not designed for it. Engine may run lean on e-85= more heat and besides that fuel economy will suffer. Although I did not buy my car for fuel economy.
Blau camaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 06:37 PM   #13
jd10013


 
Drives: 2012 camaro
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: central VA
Posts: 3,196
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR 1 View Post
Forget about cost and mileage. None of the Camaro engines were made to run on E85 and it will corrode your fuel system seals and possibley cause other problems. Ethanol is much more corrosive than gasoline and engines meant to run on E85 are engineered accordingly.

not true. the LFX is indeed designed to run on E85. but the car's fuel system is not, so you can't use it in the car.
jd10013 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2013, 06:48 PM   #14
ChrisBlair
Buick 455 Fan
 
Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Boston MA
Posts: 5,957
Less energy than gasoline. It's a sham "feel good": you pay less but put fuel in more often.

When I was 18 in 1989, leaded gas- the gas the '70 Buick I was driving was made to burn- was 67 cents a gallon.

In 2013, I pay just about 4 bucks a gallon for 93 octane unleaded.

It's so much easier for me to come up with gas money in 2013 it's not funny.
__________________
ChrisBlair is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.