09-04-2010, 02:03 PM | #15 |
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Simple... if you have pirellis you get more top speed... if u have all seasons, u are limited to 118mph. This is for safety so your tires don't blow.
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09-04-2010, 02:10 PM | #18 |
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Wasn't it just recently that a stock Camaro SS (limiter removed but no tune) went just over 170mph?
I can't remember who (which magazine of company) did the testing? I found it. Here's some of the Popular Mechanic's article. They took a GT500 and a Camaro SS to the Salt Flats. Both cars had their limiter's removed. Once I calm my nerves, I turn around for another pass and get a clean shift into fifth, the top-speed gear (the sixth gear on both the Camaro and the Mustang is there purely for highway fuel economy). The Camaro easily hits 170 mph, but from there the last few miles per hour creep up in tiny increments. I'm pressing so hard on the gas that my right leg is quivering. But when the VBOX reads 174.4 mph, that's all she's got. The car is completely benign--no wandering, no scary front-end lift. The blunt Camaro is docile even when I squeeze hard on the brakes. I concede that Chevy's muscle car isn't perfect, but it's mildly amazing that when I say, "The Brembos easily hauled it down from 174 mph," I could be talking about either a $300,000 Ferrari or a $32,000 Camaro. With the Camaro in the books, it's time to turn to that unholy handful of supercharged Mustang. I head back toward our base, and as Murph comes into view, I slow down so that I'm not barreling up on him like a maniac. But it seems like it's taking forever to get there. I glance at the speedometer and discover that I'm still doing 130 mph. This place definitely alters your perception of speed. Back in Decatur, the Lingenfelter dynamometer revealed that this particular Mustang put down 489 hp at the rear wheels, so every bit of its advertised muscle is accounted for. I leave the stability control engaged, and small bumps in the salt trigger subtle traction-control interventions up to about 100 mph. Fortunately, once you break into the really high speeds, the Mustang is just as glued down as the Camaro. The GT500 is unique in that its speedometer is actually calibrated to a number commensurate with the car's abilities. A stock GT500 is limited to 155 mph, so it makes sense that the car's speedometer reads only to 160. Given that every hot-rod hatchback now has a speedometer that reads to Mach 10, the delimited Mustang offers a rare opportunity: the chance to pin the needle. Which it does, with extreme prejudice. At 160 mph, this thing still has a long way to go. In fact, at the 15,000-foot mark, where the Camaro was touching 170 mph, the Mustang is already at 180. And still pulling. While the Camaro ran into a wall of aero drag at 174.4 mph, the GT500 bumps up against its redline, supercharger screaming, at 184.7 mph. The late Ford GT, with sleeker bodywork but only 10 more horsepower, is good for 200 mph, so it seems logical that the Mustang has a few more miles per hour to unlock. Given longer gearing, I'll bet this thing could hit 190. Still, I'm impressed: If you had this car on the autobahn, you could pull up behind a Porsche 911 (top speed: 180 mph) and flash your headlights in the international signal for "get out of my way, slower car." That's a rapid Ford. With nightfall creeping over the mountains, I sneak in a few more runs. It's not every day that you're alone on the Bonneville Salt Flats with nearly 1000 hp at your disposal, and I intend to make the most of it. I don't better my initial speeds, but my continued Salt Flats research does produce additional valuable information. For example, did you know that the Camaro SS lets you set the cruise control at 159 mph? It's true. Although, when I set the cruise at 159 mph, the VBOX says I'm actually doing 165 mph. Besides that discrepancy, I find that the car lurches in an unsettling manner when you cancel the cruise control. Typical rough-around-the-edges Camaro, I suppose, stepping on its own feet every time you want to cancel the cruise control at 165 mph. The fact that a Camaro is even capable of such a thing is properly amazing. And the Mustang, while expensive relative to the Chevy, is a bargain compared to the six-figure purebreds it can outrun. It seems unfeasible, on the face of it: You can take two attainable American muscle cars, drive them 1700 miles, run more than 170 mph on the Bonneville Salt Flats, then get back on the highway and drive to Los Angeles in reasonable comfort and without any mechanical complaint. The Camaro even managed 22 mpg on the highway. The Mustang? Well, you can lead a horse to a gas pump, but you can't make it drink less than a gallon every 19 miles. Our modern automotive lives are defined by their restrictions, the lure of speed always tempered by the reality of traffic jams and insurance premiums and points on our licenses. Even our muscle cars have speed limiters. That's why the Bonneville Salt Flats are so glorious. Because no matter how beat-down you get by the entrenched web of radar guns and speed bumps, you can still get a fast car and go to Bonneville. You can put on a helmet. And you can crack a V8 throttle wide open and hold it there, reveling in the continued existence of a place where the only limits are horsepower and the horizon Last edited by SGOS252382; 09-04-2010 at 02:33 PM. |
09-04-2010, 03:06 PM | #19 |
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1) im not BS'ing/ why would u accuse me of BS'ing??
2) the car is on its stock tires 3) so even with heads and cam still it will be limited to 175 but will get there faster? 4) the car has a lower kit, does that make any difference or not? 5) its done on the streets, not the dyno nor the track, since we dont have any here in Kuwait 6)thanx to all / even those who said BS |
09-04-2010, 03:08 PM | #20 |
BAMF SS
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because the original poster bought a camaro, and not a minivan.
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09-04-2010, 03:23 PM | #21 | |
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Many factors will come into play. Wind Speed and Direction, Air Temperature, Humidity, Altitude, and off course how the car is running. A stock Camaro SS is capable of around 170mph or so. It all depends on the conditions. A mildly modded (intake, exhaust, tune) is probably good for about 180 mph (depending again on conditions). So you're running pretty close to where you would expect your car to top out. In cooler weather with a favorable wind, you'd probably see 180 mph. |
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09-04-2010, 03:26 PM | #22 |
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tempreture was around 35'C = 95 F
as to humidity and wind and i dont know so basically 176 is good or bad? |
09-04-2010, 03:30 PM | #23 | |
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McCowboy did something like 189 mph, but his car has forced induction (superchared I believe) making at least 600 hp if I remember correctly. |
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09-04-2010, 03:56 PM | #24 |
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Why would man want to go to the moon?
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09-04-2010, 07:14 PM | #25 |
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http://www.wallaceracing.com/gear-speed.php
follow the link I provided, input the info and you'll find out your max speed capabilities. It's not 100% correct, but it'll get you close. There's also a version of the f=ma calculation but I can't remeber it. Yes, I'm a rocket surgeon. |
09-04-2010, 07:54 PM | #26 |
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Well the Bugatti Veryon super sport took an extra 200hp and weight savings to reach just about 10mph faster. Event the corvette is hard pressed to reach over 200. Still that is fast lol.
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09-04-2010, 07:55 PM | #27 | |
BAMF SS
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What you are providing is the gear limited top speed.
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09-07-2010, 12:02 AM | #28 |
I can dig that..
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the OP lives in kuwait.they do some crazy car shit down there.ive seen vids of people going 180mph on normal roads.they do gnarly stunts in the middle of traffic also
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