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BeardWS6 · 02-21-2013, 03:18 PM

1. Roto Fab Cold Air Kit
2. ZL1 Custom Heat Exchanger with dual fans
3. Metco Motorsports 9.1" lower pulley ( includes innovators west damper)
4. Metco Motorsports 2.5" blower pulley
5. Cam
6. .675 lift double valve spring kit with Ti Retainers
7. Comp cam pushrods
8. 160 degree thermostat
9. solid isolater
10. Kooks 1 7/8" headers with Catted Connection pipe
11. Metco 50 MM Idler pulley
12. Blower belt
13. Ported mouth, ported blower, snout, throttle body
14. MSD wires and NGK TR7IX spark plugs
15. Alky Control Meth injection kit
16. ID 850 fuel Injectors

I`m hoping for over 700rwhp with this set-up. I have a Auto! What do you guys think about this set-up? Please share your input to me before I start this....The wife loves driving this car so It needs to be drivable for her to enjoyed.. She isn`t happy with me on this, after my build with the 01 WS6 she couldn`t drive it anymore because of the huge cam and being a auto it surged a little and ran rich for the 200 shot I had on it...

hognutz · 02-21-2013, 05:00 PM

okay my .02 on your list. if you going to pull your snout and port it run the 2.35 upper pulley.

then you don't have to run the expensive inovators west stuff. you could just run the ATI lower with say 8.6 ring or just say hey maybe 15psi is good enough and save even more.

this will save you $2-300. you will not need the idler if you do this.

I would not run the meth kit IMO washes off the coating on the rotors. if you going to spend that money run the rx/ciller. with the RX chiller you just always have good temps not much more money. the money you saved ati vs inovators west will cover it.

if you want drivablitly I would think about hooking up with a supplier that will make it drivable. Get specs from them. HP goals are nice but 15hp vs less drivable when on stock rubber you will just burn them down any way is not worth it.

Trackman · 02-21-2013, 07:05 PM

Grab a 90mm tb.
My guess 650hp on a safe tune.

MIKE@TF · 02-21-2013, 07:07 PM

You can use stock blower and pick up ported heads instead.. you could port the snout and do a NW102mm... dont see it making over 700rwhp but it will make good power...make sure you have a good tuner...who is doing the work? You can pm me if you want..

MIKE@TF · 02-21-2013, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trackman

Grab a 90mm tb.
My guess 650hp on a safe tune.

Yea about what I was thinking..

Mattzl1 · 02-21-2013, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardWS6

1. Roto Fab Cold Air Kit
2. ZL1 Custom Heat Exchanger with dual fans
3. Metco Motorsports 9.1" lower pulley ( includes innovators west damper)
4. Metco Motorsports 2.5" blower pulley
5. Cam specs 227/242/520/590/122+6.
6. .675 lift double valve spring kit with Ti Retainers
7. Comp cam pushrods
8. 160 degree thermostat
9. solid isolater
10. Kooks 1 7/8" headers with Catted Connection pipe
11. Metco 50 MM Idler pulley
12. Blower belt
13. Ported mouth, ported blower, snout, throttle body
14. MSD wires and NGK TR7IX spark plugs
15. Alky Control Meth injection kit
16. ID 850 fuel Injectors

I`m hoping for over 700rwhp with this set-up. I have a Auto! What do you guys think about this set-up? Please share your input to me before I start this....The wife loves driving this car so It needs to be drivable for her to enjoyed.. She isn`t happy with me on this, after my build with the 01 WS6 she couldn`t drive it anymore because of the huge cam and being a auto it surged a little and ran rich for the 200 shot I had on it...

I had a very similar build just done on my car which is an auto. I didn't have the blower ported, just the snout and throttle body and I don't have meth. But other than that very similar as you can see in my signature.

charlietuna · 02-21-2013, 08:15 PM

are you installing a boost a pump or running a second fuel pump?

Trackman · 02-22-2013, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlietuna

are you installing a boost a pump or running a second fuel pump?

Ya you will need that.

BeardWS6 · 02-22-2013, 02:43 PM

My builder is doing everyhing. I have a local builder G-Force doing the work, guys have built several Cads and made big power...They have the first in the 9`s... They are going to build me a beast!!

BeardWS6 · 02-22-2013, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattzl1

I had a very similar build just done on my car which is an auto. I didn't have the blower ported, just the snout and throttle body and I don't have meth. But other than that very similar as you can see in my signature.

How do you like the power? Does the car sound just right and no driving issues? With the power your making looks like a beast!

Mattzl1 · 02-22-2013, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardWS6

How do you like the power? Does the car sound just right and no driving issues? With the power your making looks like a beast!

The power is awesome. More power than traction. It is sitting in the garage waiting for warmer weather right now. It was about 40* out when I brought it home and had to take it easy because it wanted to break loose if I eased it past 1/2 throttle. The exhaust sounds awesome! Once you start getting into the boost the exhaust really wakes up. The car drives like stock with no issues and it has a bigger cam.

1st Gen Forever · 02-22-2013, 05:43 PM

Unless I missed it, you're leaving the heads alone. If that's true, your cam might be a little larger than needed.

Now if you are doing something to get the heads to flow better and your TB is a 102, then upgrade the fuel pump, bump to 2" on the primaries and you should be at your 700wrhp number. I stayed with 1 7/8 primaries on mine and it makes the torque hit hard and early. Nice on the street but if drag racing, I'm always shifting above the meaty part of my torque.

My opinion based on my build.

Good luck!

Mike TexaSS · 02-28-2013, 07:50 PM

He's in good hands boys!

We know a thing or 2 about LSA engines...

BeardWS6 · 02-28-2013, 08:20 PM

I`m realistic on the power, wishing for 700 rwhp but see most are getting around 650-675rwhp with auto`s. I`m hoping the methanol gets me a little more. You can see on G-Force web site they have several CTS-V making awesome power and fast! I trust mike and crew with my baby for sure! We will see by next friday if things go well what power we have! We shall SEE!

02-21-2013, 03:18 PM	#1
BeardWS6 Drives: 01 WS6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 263	New ZL1 Build, Whats your thoughts on list 1. Roto Fab Cold Air Kit 2. ZL1 Custom Heat Exchanger with dual fans 3. Metco Motorsports 9.1" lower pulley ( includes innovators west damper) 4. Metco Motorsports 2.5" blower pulley 5. Cam 6. .675 lift double valve spring kit with Ti Retainers 7. Comp cam pushrods 8. 160 degree thermostat 9. solid isolater 10. Kooks 1 7/8" headers with Catted Connection pipe 11. Metco 50 MM Idler pulley 12. Blower belt 13. Ported mouth, ported blower, snout, throttle body 14. MSD wires and NGK TR7IX spark plugs 15. Alky Control Meth injection kit 16. ID 850 fuel Injectors I`m hoping for over 700rwhp with this set-up. I have a Auto! What do you guys think about this set-up? Please share your input to me before I start this....The wife loves driving this car so It needs to be drivable for her to enjoyed.. She isn`t happy with me on this, after my build with the 01 WS6 she couldn`t drive it anymore because of the huge cam and being a auto it surged a little and ran rich for the 200 shot I had on it... __________________ 2013 Red ZL1 Auto modded 2015 C7 ZO6 Luguna Blue stock Last edited by BeardWS6; 02-22-2013 at 02:40 PM.

02-21-2013, 05:00 PM	#2
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	okay my .02 on your list. if you going to pull your snout and port it run the 2.35 upper pulley. then you don't have to run the expensive inovators west stuff. you could just run the ATI lower with say 8.6 ring or just say hey maybe 15psi is good enough and save even more. this will save you $2-300. you will not need the idler if you do this. I would not run the meth kit IMO washes off the coating on the rotors. if you going to spend that money run the rx/ciller. with the RX chiller you just always have good temps not much more money. the money you saved ati vs inovators west will cover it. if you want drivablitly I would think about hooking up with a supplier that will make it drivable. Get specs from them. HP goals are nice but 15hp vs less drivable when on stock rubber you will just burn them down any way is not worth it. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

02-21-2013, 08:15 PM	#7
charlietuna Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,342 View My Garage	are you installing a boost a pump or running a second fuel pump? __________________ Laus Deo

02-22-2013, 02:43 PM	#9
BeardWS6 Drives: 01 WS6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 263	My builder is doing everyhing. I have a local builder G-Force doing the work, guys have built several Cads and made big power...They have the first in the 9`s... They are going to build me a beast!! __________________ 2013 Red ZL1 Auto modded 2015 C7 ZO6 Luguna Blue stock

02-28-2013, 08:20 PM	#14
BeardWS6 Drives: 01 WS6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 263	I`m realistic on the power, wishing for 700 rwhp but see most are getting around 650-675rwhp with auto`s. I`m hoping the methanol gets me a little more. You can see on G-Force web site they have several CTS-V making awesome power and fast! I trust mike and crew with my baby for sure! We will see by next friday if things go well what power we have! We shall SEE! __________________ 2013 Red ZL1 Auto modded 2015 C7 ZO6 Luguna Blue stock

02-21-2013, 07:05 PM	#3
Trackman Drives: 67RS Camaro ,Black 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Alberta Posts: 1,408	Grab a 90mm tb. My guess 650hp on a safe tune.

02-21-2013, 07:07 PM	#4
MIKE@TF Account Suspended Drives: Srt8 jeep,02 mustang gt,2009 ctsv Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Beaumont,tx Posts: 120	You can use stock blower and pick up ported heads instead.. you could port the snout and do a NW102mm... dont see it making over 700rwhp but it will make good power...make sure you have a good tuner...who is doing the work? You can pm me if you want..

02-22-2013, 05:43 PM	#12
1st Gen Forever ZL1 #140 Drives: Camaros: 68 SS, 10 2SS/RS, 12 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 594	Unless I missed it, you're leaving the heads alone. If that's true, your cam might be a little larger than needed. Now if you are doing something to get the heads to flow better and your TB is a 102, then upgrade the fuel pump, bump to 2" on the primaries and you should be at your 700wrhp number. I stayed with 1 7/8 primaries on mine and it makes the torque hit hard and early. Nice on the street but if drag racing, I'm always shifting above the meaty part of my torque. My opinion based on my build. Good luck!