TSW nurburgring vs forgestar f14s? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Toross · 08-20-2012, 05:53 PM

I've been doing a lot of research on 22" forgestar f14s and TSW nurburgrings. I have found a lot of bad things regarding forgstars and problems such as being out of round and easily cracking. Haven't really found anything too negative about the TSWs. So I'm looking for a little from personal experience with both.

If u could also help me out has anyone had any rubbing or camber issues with either of these wheels combined with lowering springs? 22s

Thanx guys.

Nine Ball · 08-20-2012, 07:21 PM

Quality wise, they are identical. Both are rotary forged wheels, produced overseas. Same material, same manufacturing process.

I've not heard of any Forgestar wheels having cracking issues. They are simply cast center wheels, just like the factory wheels are. Any cast center wheel can crack under a hard impact, it is just a material property of cast aluminum. Forged wheels don't crack or shatter, they simply bend.

Zero rubbing issues, if you have the proper offset and tire sizes.

Tony

Toross · 08-20-2012, 08:27 PM

How good is the quality on them? I know they aren't anything top of the line but I'm not looking for top quality. Just something that will look good and not fall apart if take care of it.

Thanx for the info.

Speed Depot · 08-20-2012, 09:37 PM

Both wheels have the same style of manufacturing and are basically the same quality. Many of my customers actually use the tsw wheels for track only racing putting them under serious stress and I have never had a complaint, on the contrary some customers order a second set so they can quickly rotate them.

Alex

So Cal Camaro · 08-21-2012, 10:22 AM

The Forgestars are good wheels for the money, look good and are lighter which was my main concern...I use them on the track/autocross...I like my Forgestars...get them from Nineball if you buy them for the perfect offsets...

SGOS252382 · 08-21-2012, 10:32 AM

TSW Nurburgrings are a little lighter (1-2 lbs or so per wheel) than the Forgestar F14s. But both wheels are considerably lighter than the stock wheels (in the same size and width).

The Forgestar F14s offer better offsets. You can run a wider tire without any issues of the tire sticking out past the fender line.
With the TSW Nurburgrings you need to be careful about your tire choices to make sure you tires don't stick out.

TSW Nurburgings - a little less expensive and you can usually get them right away with no wait.

Forgestars - can take many weeks to get (8+ in some cases). My 18" F14s took over 2 months.

Looks - subjective. Both look great in my opinion.

bannonm · 08-21-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382

TSW Nurburgings - a little less expensive and you can usually get them right away with no wait.

Actually a lot less expensive. I paid $1300 for 4- 20x10" Nurburgrings and got them in a week. The best price I got on this forum was $1850 and over a two month wait for F14s. For my setup a 35 offset (stock TSW offset) worked perfectly. As pointed out, Forgestars offer a custom offset. TSW are very limited in offset offerings.

Also TSW has only 3 color choices, Forgestar offers more. In my case the gunmetal was my color choice.

Toross · 08-21-2012, 09:44 PM

I think the difference in time is gonna make me lean toward tsw. Originally the fact that they didn't have matte black swayed me, but the more I c the gunmetal the better it looks. That's a really nice lookin ride bannom.

Thanx a lot for the responses guys.

SGOS252382 · 08-22-2012, 05:17 PM

Another difference is Forgestars are built specifically for the Camaro (no centering rings and correct offsets). The TSW require centering rings to make them work on the 5th gen Camaros.

But TSW has a very good reputation with their center rings working well. But most tire installers will warn you that you might expect some vibrations when using wheels with centering rings.

My centering rings on my TSW became a little broken up (on edges) over time (2.5 years of use). I just recent took them off to put on my 18" Forgestar F14 (drag setup). That's when I discovered that the centering rings were starting to deteriorate.

I will be calling TSW to get some new centering rings for my Nurburgrings. That is something to consider with the TSWs.

Toross · 08-22-2012, 06:54 PM

Did u ever have any issues with vibrations? And do u know how much the centers rings r?

SUX2BU · 08-23-2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Another difference is Forgestars are built specifically for the Camaro (no centering rings and correct offsets). The TSW require centering rings to make them work on the 5th gen Camaros.

But TSW has a very good reputation with their center rings working well. But most tire installers will warn you that you might expect some vibrations when using wheels with centering rings.

My centering rings on my TSW became a little broken up (on edges) over time (2.5 years of use). I just recent took them off to put on my 18" Forgestar F14 (drag setup). That's when I discovered that the centering rings were starting to deteriorate.

I will be calling TSW to get some new centering rings for my Nurburgrings. That is something to consider with the TSWs.

Is this something new Forgestar is doing, custom center bores? All 10 of my Forgestar wheels used centering rings.

Nessal · 08-23-2012, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Another difference is Forgestars are built specifically for the Camaro (no centering rings and correct offsets). The TSW require centering rings to make them work on the 5th gen Camaros.

But TSW has a very good reputation with their center rings working well. But most tire installers will warn you that you might expect some vibrations when using wheels with centering rings.

My centering rings on my TSW became a little broken up (on edges) over time (2.5 years of use). I just recent took them off to put on my 18" Forgestar F14 (drag setup). That's when I discovered that the centering rings were starting to deteriorate.

I will be calling TSW to get some new centering rings for my Nurburgrings. That is something to consider with the TSWs.

That's not accurate. You still need the hub rings with the forgestar wheels.

Nessal · 08-23-2012, 01:29 AM

BTW, one of the cons about Forgestars is the wait. Mine took almost 11 weeks. There were quite a few flaws in the finish of mine. I heard they use different powder coaters so either you get a good one or a crappy one. Luck of the draw I guess. Also the Nurb are much cheaper and looks just as good. I would have went with those if they offered them in bronze.

LittleMT · 08-23-2012, 02:22 AM

08-20-2012, 05:53 PM	#1
Toross Drives: 2007 Chevy Tahoe Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 98	TSW nurburgring vs forgestar f14s? I've been doing a lot of research on 22" forgestar f14s and TSW nurburgrings. I have found a lot of bad things regarding forgstars and problems such as being out of round and easily cracking. Haven't really found anything too negative about the TSWs. So I'm looking for a little from personal experience with both. If u could also help me out has anyone had any rubbing or camber issues with either of these wheels combined with lowering springs? 22s Thanx guys.

08-20-2012, 07:21 PM	#2
Nine Ball Drives: 1969 & 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,849	Quality wise, they are identical. Both are rotary forged wheels, produced overseas. Same material, same manufacturing process. I've not heard of any Forgestar wheels having cracking issues. They are simply cast center wheels, just like the factory wheels are. Any cast center wheel can crack under a hard impact, it is just a material property of cast aluminum. Forged wheels don't crack or shatter, they simply bend. Zero rubbing issues, if you have the proper offset and tire sizes. Tony __________________ Fquick.com/NineBall

08-21-2012, 10:22 AM	#5
So Cal Camaro So Cal Race Team Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny So Cal Posts: 3,584	The Forgestars are good wheels for the money, look good and are lighter which was my main concern...I use them on the track/autocross...I like my Forgestars...get them from Nineball if you buy them for the perfect offsets... __________________

08-23-2012, 02:22 AM	#14
LittleMT user bann'd Drives: Chevy SS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hepcat City Posts: 1,463	__________________ Chantilly Lace, the 2011 Rockabilly Jukebox..ADM built..617rwhp, geared A6.

08-20-2012, 08:27 PM	#3
Toross Drives: 2007 Chevy Tahoe Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 98	How good is the quality on them? I know they aren't anything top of the line but I'm not looking for top quality. Just something that will look good and not fall apart if take care of it. Thanx for the info.

08-20-2012, 09:37 PM	#4
Speed Depot Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 1,442	Both wheels have the same style of manufacturing and are basically the same quality. Many of my customers actually use the tsw wheels for track only racing putting them under serious stress and I have never had a complaint, on the contrary some customers order a second set so they can quickly rotate them. Alex

08-21-2012, 10:32 AM	#6
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	TSW Nurburgrings are a little lighter (1-2 lbs or so per wheel) than the Forgestar F14s. But both wheels are considerably lighter than the stock wheels (in the same size and width). The Forgestar F14s offer better offsets. You can run a wider tire without any issues of the tire sticking out past the fender line. With the TSW Nurburgrings you need to be careful about your tire choices to make sure you tires don't stick out. TSW Nurburgings - a little less expensive and you can usually get them right away with no wait. Forgestars - can take many weeks to get (8+ in some cases). My 18" F14s took over 2 months. Looks - subjective. Both look great in my opinion.

08-21-2012, 09:44 PM	#8
Toross Drives: 2007 Chevy Tahoe Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 98	I think the difference in time is gonna make me lean toward tsw. Originally the fact that they didn't have matte black swayed me, but the more I c the gunmetal the better it looks. That's a really nice lookin ride bannom. Thanx a lot for the responses guys.

08-22-2012, 05:17 PM	#9
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	Another difference is Forgestars are built specifically for the Camaro (no centering rings and correct offsets). The TSW require centering rings to make them work on the 5th gen Camaros. But TSW has a very good reputation with their center rings working well. But most tire installers will warn you that you might expect some vibrations when using wheels with centering rings. My centering rings on my TSW became a little broken up (on edges) over time (2.5 years of use). I just recent took them off to put on my 18" Forgestar F14 (drag setup). That's when I discovered that the centering rings were starting to deteriorate. I will be calling TSW to get some new centering rings for my Nurburgrings. That is something to consider with the TSWs.

08-22-2012, 06:54 PM	#10
Toross Drives: 2007 Chevy Tahoe Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 98	Did u ever have any issues with vibrations? And do u know how much the centers rings r?

08-23-2012, 01:29 AM	#13
Nessal Drives: Exige, Miata, Ghia Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 2,309	BTW, one of the cons about Forgestars is the wait. Mine took almost 11 weeks. There were quite a few flaws in the finish of mine. I heard they use different powder coaters so either you get a good one or a crappy one. Luck of the draw I guess. Also the Nurb are much cheaper and looks just as good. I would have went with those if they offered them in bronze.