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Agarc · 02-23-2012, 11:30 AM

didnt they stop making these a while back...

rtcat600man · 02-23-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

Yikes. Are there any tests you can do to see if it truly is stainless? I don't know much about metals, but maybe there is a chemical test or something...?

They would be in serious trouble if they ended up being mild steel. What grade do they advertise? 304?

Yes they are supposedly 304.

This is a qoute from one of the vendors selling them on ebay

"Beautifully Constructed With High Quality SUS-T304 Stainless Steel For Best Durability.
Mirror Polished Finishing."

OHIO SPEED · 02-23-2012, 01:10 PM

i have the stainless works long tube with high-flow cats. couldn't be happier! no rust, no problems after 2-1/2 years.

rtcat600man · 02-23-2012, 01:13 PM

Time to do a little invetigation using the famous internet. I came up with this so far.

3. Can stainless steel rust? Why? (I thought stainless did not rust!)
Answer: Stainless does not "rust" as you think of regular steel rusting with a red oxide on the surface that flakes off. If you see red rust it is probably due to some iron particles that have contaminated the surface of the stainless steel and it is these iron particles that are rusting. Look at the source of the rusting and see if you can remove it from the surface. If the iron is embedded in the surface, you can try a solution of 10% nitric and 2% hydrofluoric acid at room temperature or slightly heated. Wash area well with lots and lots of water after use. Commercially available "pickling paste" can also be used.

CamaroDreams07 · 02-23-2012, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtcat600man

Time to do a little invetigation using the famous internet. I came up with this so far.

3. Can stainless steel rust? Why? (I thought stainless did not rust!)
Answer: Stainless does not "rust" as you think of regular steel rusting with a red oxide on the surface that flakes off. If you see red rust it is probably due to some iron particles that have contaminated the surface of the stainless steel and it is these iron particles that are rusting. Look at the source of the rusting and see if you can remove it from the surface. If the iron is embedded in the surface, you can try a solution of 10% nitric and 2% hydrofluoric acid at room temperature or slightly heated. Wash area well with lots and lots of water after use. Commercially available "pickling paste" can also be used.

Hmm interesting. Well, I know we use this stuff to decon paint, wheels, windows etc in the detailing world. It'll pull the iron out. I don't think I've ever tried it on stainless, but if it doesn't hurt aluminum I would think you'd be ok.

rtcat600man · 02-23-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

Hmm interesting. Well, I know we use this stuff to decon paint, wheels, windows etc in the detailing world. It'll pull the iron out. I don't think I've ever tried it on stainless, but if it doesn't hurt aluminum I would think you'd be ok.

Thanks for the tip. Looks like I will be getting a bottle of this and giving it a try soon.

Bill F · 02-23-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

Yikes. Are there any tests you can do to see if it truly is stainless? I don't know much about metals, but maybe there is a chemical test or something...?

They would be in serious trouble if they ended up being mild steel. What grade do they advertise? 304?

I don't think a magnet will stick to stainless steel. Could be wrong though.

HopeRidesAlone · 02-23-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill F

I don't think a magnet will stick to stainless steel. Could be wrong though.

True but it depends on the grade of SS ill have to try it though

nikos30 · 02-24-2012, 12:12 PM

I also have the loudmouth 1 and a G5CR intake. On youtube, there is only one video of a loudmouth 1 and longtube headers and its I cant tell the difference. Is there anybody that can upload somethin for me of a loudmouth 1 + longtube headers for a v6? Im kinda a noob with this, I have a few questions.
1. Aren't long tube headers without cats illegal? I live in NJ...
2. Which long tube headers with cats give the most hp/tq gain?
3. What are all the differences between 1-3/4 and 1-5/8 sizes?
I've been tryin to ask around for a while and I dont get many answers lol thank you so much in advance.
Im currently looking at part number: CAV6SHWC. Let me know what you guys think of that.
Id get a trifecta tune sometime after that too..

nikos30 · 02-26-2012, 12:20 PM

JBAGREG that vid was an ss :( Im so pissed ill never get that sound though cause that is freakin awesome.

v6needluv2 · 02-26-2012, 09:33 PM

I was busy all this week so I'm just checking back on this thread now, took me 30min to go through all the posts. After reading everything I think I've decided on Stainless Works. They have a good price without breaking the bank. I would love to get ARH but those are far to expensive for me.

I'll be ordering them in a few weeks when I get enough to order the headers along with the Trifecta tune

. Thanks for all of your input guys

nikos30 · 02-26-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by v6needluv2

I was busy all this week so I'm just checking back on this thread now, took me 30min to go through all the posts. After reading everything I think I've decided on Stainless Works. They have a good price without breaking the bank. I would love to get ARH but those are far to expensive for me.

I'll be ordering them in a few weeks when I get enough to order the headers along with the Trifecta tune

. Thanks for all of your input guys

Please let me know how it goes and make me some 1080p vids...please. Im so stuck in what to get. You might be the only one that wil have the stainless works and the loudmouth one. let me know ASAP!

v6needluv2 · 02-26-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nikos30

Please let me know how it goes and make me some 1080p vids...please. Im so stuck in what to get. You might be the only one that wil have the stainless works and the loudmouth one. let me know ASAP!

I'll try and let you know when I can. I probably wont have them on the car until beginning or mid april, depending on how much I work. I'm sorry in advance if I forget to make a video for you

I can be a little forgetful

nikos30 · 02-26-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by v6needluv2

I'll try and let you know when I can. I probably wont have them on the car until beginning or mid april, depending on how much I work. I'm sorry in advance if I forget to make a video for you

I can be a little forgetful

You better not! You are my test dumby to see if it turns out great or not lmao TY

02-23-2012, 11:30 AM	#43
Agarc Dr.Frankenstein Drives: 15gt Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: MIA Posts: 1,568 View My Garage	didnt they stop making these a while back... __________________ Carandsoulcustoms puntocomm

02-23-2012, 01:10 PM	#45
OHIO SPEED Drives: 2010 1LT v6 Twin Turbo Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 5,843 View My Garage	headers i have the stainless works long tube with high-flow cats. couldn't be happier! no rust, no problems after 2-1/2 years.

02-23-2012, 01:13 PM	#46
rtcat600man having FUN now 13.66@101 Drives: 2010 2LT IOM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clarkston, Michigan Posts: 9,230 View My Garage	Time to do a little invetigation using the famous internet. I came up with this so far. 3. Can stainless steel rust? Why? (I thought stainless did not rust!) Answer: Stainless does not "rust" as you think of regular steel rusting with a red oxide on the surface that flakes off. If you see red rust it is probably due to some iron particles that have contaminated the surface of the stainless steel and it is these iron particles that are rusting. Look at the source of the rusting and see if you can remove it from the surface. If the iron is embedded in the surface, you can try a solution of 10% nitric and 2% hydrofluoric acid at room temperature or slightly heated. Wash area well with lots and lots of water after use. Commercially available "pickling paste" can also be used. __________________ MY BUILD

02-26-2012, 09:33 PM	#53
v6needluv2 Drives: 2011 Victory Red LS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 286	I was busy all this week so I'm just checking back on this thread now, took me 30min to go through all the posts. After reading everything I think I've decided on Stainless Works. They have a good price without breaking the bank. I would love to get ARH but those are far to expensive for me. I'll be ordering them in a few weeks when I get enough to order the headers along with the Trifecta tune. Thanks for all of your input guys

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02-24-2012, 12:12 PM	#51
nikos30 HT5 EastSide Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NJ/PA Posts: 1,596 View My Garage	I also have the loudmouth 1 and a G5CR intake. On youtube, there is only one video of a loudmouth 1 and longtube headers and its I cant tell the difference. Is there anybody that can upload somethin for me of a loudmouth 1 + longtube headers for a v6? Im kinda a noob with this, I have a few questions. 1. Aren't long tube headers without cats illegal? I live in NJ... 2. Which long tube headers with cats give the most hp/tq gain? 3. What are all the differences between 1-3/4 and 1-5/8 sizes? I've been tryin to ask around for a while and I dont get many answers lol thank you so much in advance. Im currently looking at part number: CAV6SHWC. Let me know what you guys think of that. Id get a trifecta tune sometime after that too..

02-26-2012, 12:20 PM	#52
nikos30 HT5 EastSide Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NJ/PA Posts: 1,596 View My Garage	JBAGREG that vid was an ss :( Im so pissed ill never get that sound though cause that is freakin awesome.