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Old 10-10-2008, 03:19 PM   #57
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This is official. Blue is not available on SS. I've known but was unable to confirm due to my non-disclosure agreement with GM. Now that the consumer ordering guide is out, I can indeed confirm.

There is no "technical" reason why blue can't be done. The ONLY way to possibly get blue back on the palate for SS is through customer demand.

You know GM is reading this board. Keep the comments constructful. Those ready to buy, who will pass since blue is not available, should communicate that to their local dealerships too.
I have a good mind to just get my camaro SS custom painted the blue of my choice. Also get the rally stripes painted on my self. I just can fatham why Gm wont offer the Camaro SS in blue. The IBM would have looked very nice with the red SS badge you would get from ordering the SS/ RS. I just dont get it.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:22 PM   #58
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I have a good mind to just get my camaro SS custom painted the blue of my choice. Also get the rally stripes painted on my self. I just can fatham why Gm wont offer the Camaro SS in blue. The IBM would have looked very nice with the red SS badge you would get from ordering the SS/ RS. I just dont get it.
I dont either, and I made that very clear to Cheryl. She knows I drive a NBM Firehawk.
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To everyone in the know with the inside scoop and the NDA's.... did they give a REASON for the lack of blue???!?!
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To everyone in the know with the inside scoop and the NDA's.... did they give a REASON for the lack of blue???!?!
not one I can discuss in detail. sorry.

again, consumer demand could possibly change that. let your dealer know. money talks.
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so, I must change my original story to Tag about the three blues that were available on the Mustang... there is now only one blue color available on the Mustang, but it is available on both the V6 and the GT, at all levels of trim.


this is a HORRIBLE idea... who offers YELLOW, but doesn't offer BLUE on a top end car? this is going to be a deal braker for ALOT of people and alot of those people are NOT on car forums... they're people that are day to day drivers that GM would probably have sold an SS to, but can't sell a V6 to because they dont have a NEED for a V6... they're older enthusiasts and people who are on the fence... they are Mustang GT drivers who like their car, but would like a change... and a Camaro would have filled that desire... but, instead, a Challenger R/T will be their new car... these lost sales cannot be counted like posts on an internet forum... these lost sales cannot be measured by anything other than "what could have been" reasoning... and if you have any doubts as to what dropping something that would have been, maybe, 10-20% of sales, lets ask Chrysler/Dodge how smart it was to discontinue the 2 dr Neon... after they discontinued it, Neon sales dropped off and even a redesign didn't save it... all because the 2dr Neon was less than 20% of Neon sales... by GM offering a 2dr Cavalier and Ford offering a 2dr Focus and Escort, they took those 40,000 cars away from Dodge and the car's viability slipped... and, eventually, the Caliber is what we got to replace it.


GM, this is an oversight that you CANNOT AFFORD TO MAKE... the SS is NOT the SRT8... it is NOT the GT500... it is NOT the car that "only a few" will buy... its the ENTHUSIAST car, and to limit the choices the enthusiasts have is to slap the face of the customers and faithful who have kept the dream alive... it is an insult to those of us who have "kept the faith"... it is a defiance of those that you have asked to help you... and it is something that will not be accepted or tolerated by this key, important group of buyers... by doing this, GM, you have alienated several and discouraged the loyal... you, GM, have a responsibility to us to allow choice... to allow personal tastes... and to offer multiples of other colors and no blues is like Henry Ford saying about the Model T, "you can have it any color you want, as long as it's black."

if this were happening on a Z28 model, which would be limited production and have a pricetag somewhere in the area of the GT500 and SRT8, it wouldn't be an issue... if it were happening on a car that SLP was putting out, we, the enthusiasts, would look right over it... but this is OUR CAR, GM... and we, your loyal enthusiasts, are NOT HAPPY with your decision to tell us what we can and cannot have... especially when you offer it to the people who you willingly call your "mainstream" customers... the people you are trying to get away from Toyota, Ford, Nissan, et al... you acknowledge that the SS is targeted to the enthusiasts... why do you insult us now, when you need us the most?
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Guys, if you want blue, just get the damn thing painted. You could even get a Camaro in white and leave part of it white for a striping effect.

In no way should this be a deal breaker.

Besides, maybe they're saving a Le Mans-type blue for another model... That's one of the only reasons that makes sense, especially since ChrisL said they can't talk about it.
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Guys, if you want blue, just get the damn thing painted.
that's not the point, sir... and to imply that it is "just that easy," is to ignore that if you buy a car for $XX,XXX, then you have to add $3,000 worth of paint to it to get a color that is OFFERED on the V6 model, is preposterous... read my post above and you'll see that this is as much a slap to the enthusiast as it is a limiting of color choices.
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Besides, maybe they're saving a Le Mans-type blue for another model...
they're not... they might, however, be saving another color choice for the 2011 model year.
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Really no way to tell. We'll have to wait and see.

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that's not the point, sir... and to imply that it is "just that easy," is to ignore that if you buy a car for $XX,XXX, then you have to add $3,000 worth of paint to it to get a color that is OFFERED on the V6 model, is preposterous... read my post above and you'll see that this is as much a slap to the enthusiast as it is a limiting of color choices.
I did read your post above, I just think you may be overreacting a little bit. I certainly didn't imply it was easy to repaint the car. If you wanted blue, yeah it sucks, but it's not like you can't get an SS at all. A color choice should never be a deal-breaker, especially not with the features the SS has and the quality of the other colors.

Cyber gray or red for me.
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:49 PM   #66
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that's not the point, sir... and to imply that it is "just that easy," is to ignore that if you buy a car for $XX,XXX, then you have to add $3,000 worth of paint to it to get a color that is OFFERED on the V6 model, is preposterous... read my post above and you'll see that this is as much a slap to the enthusiast as it is a limiting of color choices.
If you have ever had a car repainted a different color...you know it's NOT cheap.

What's the big damn secret about the "no blue SS" anyways?
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If you have ever had a car repainted a different color...you know it's NOT cheap.
I know it's not inexpensive. I was just saying if you're absolutely set on blue it's still a possibility.
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so, I must change my original story to Tag about the three blues that were available on the Mustang... there is now only one blue color available on the Mustang, but it is available on both the V6 and the GT, at all levels of trim.


this is a HORRIBLE idea... who offers YELLOW, but doesn't offer BLUE on a top end car? this is going to be a deal braker for ALOT of people and alot of those people are NOT on car forums... they're people that are day to day drivers that GM would probably have sold an SS to, but can't sell a V6 to because they dont have a NEED for a V6... they're older enthusiasts and people who are on the fence... they are Mustang GT drivers who like their car, but would like a change... and a Camaro would have filled that desire... but, instead, a Challenger R/T will be their new car... these lost sales cannot be counted like posts on an internet forum... these lost sales cannot be measured by anything other than "what could have been" reasoning... and if you have any doubts as to what dropping something that would have been, maybe, 10-20% of sales, lets ask Chrysler/Dodge how smart it was to discontinue the 2 dr Neon... after they discontinued it, Neon sales dropped off and even a redesign didn't save it... all because the 2dr Neon was less than 20% of Neon sales... by GM offering a 2dr Cavalier and Ford offering a 2dr Focus and Escort, they took those 40,000 cars away from Dodge and the car's viability slipped... and, eventually, the Caliber is what we got to replace it.


GM, this is an oversight that you CANNOT AFFORD TO MAKE... the SS is NOT the SRT8... it is NOT the GT500... it is NOT the car that "only a few" will buy... its the ENTHUSIAST car, and to limit the choices the enthusiasts have is to slap the face of the customers and faithful who have kept the dream alive... it is an insult to those of us who have "kept the faith"... it is a defiance of those that you have asked to help you... and it is something that will not be accepted or tolerated by this key, important group of buyers... by doing this, GM, you have alienated several and discouraged the loyal... you, GM, have a responsibility to us to allow choice... to allow personal tastes... and to offer multiples of other colors and no blues is like Henry Ford saying about the Model T, "you can have it any color you want, as long as it's black."

if this were happening on a Z28 model, which would be limited production and have a pricetag somewhere in the area of the GT500 and SRT8, it wouldn't be an issue... if it were happening on a car that SLP was putting out, we, the enthusiasts, would look right over it... but this is OUR CAR, GM... and we, your loyal enthusiasts, are NOT HAPPY with your decision to tell us what we can and cannot have... especially when you offer it to the people who you willingly call your "mainstream" customers... the people you are trying to get away from Toyota, Ford, Nissan, et al... you acknowledge that the SS is targeted to the enthusiasts... why do you insult us now, when you need us the most?
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I did read your post above, I just think you may be overreacting a little bit. I certainly didn't imply it was easy to repaint the car. If you wanted blue, yeah it sucks, but it's not like you can't get an SS at all. A color choice should never be a deal-breaker, especially not with the features the SS has and the quality of the other colors.

Cyber gray or red for me.
and make no mistake, it ISNT a deal breaker to me... but it will be to others... we had already decided on a Cyber Gray car... so its not going to stop us... but what about others? what about people who dearly love blue as a color... and they'd willingly buy one if it was offered... but choose to keep their current car or buy another company's product because they can't get what they want from GM... Ford offers a blue... Dodge offers a blue... why is GM NOT offering a blue? haven't we had enough of GM telling us, the customers, "you can't have what you want" in reference to the Z28? why limit the possibilities on a car that GM is calling a "global car"? all we're asking for is answers or changes... either one is acceptable... but "we can't talk about it" is just plain silly.
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Really no way to tell. We'll have to wait and see.



I did read your post above, I just think you may be overreacting a little bit. I certainly didn't imply it was easy to repaint the car. If you wanted blue, yeah it sucks, but it's not like you can't get an SS at all. A color choice should never be a deal-breaker, especially not with the features the SS has and the quality of the other colors.

Cyber gray or red for me.
It would be a deal-breaker if like, for many of us, we are sacrificing whatever we can to get our dream car. And those of us who happen to feel if we're paying ~30K for a car, we darn well better be able to get it in blue.

(And I don't mean this flippantly but--) Forget JetStream Blue votes; GM I'm voting you add the SS in both blues to the lineup! I don't want an LT/ LS!! I want my 422 hp blue bullet!
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