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ctk1 · 10-27-2011, 11:27 AM

Hey guys I have a quick Adam's question. I recently did the Fine Machine Polish, Machine Sealant, and Brilliant Glaze to my 3 cars. Last weekend I took them to a carshow. They hadn't been driven since the full detail so I just used Meguiar's spray detailer to freshen them up. I noticed when I got to the show that 2 of the cars has haze marks on them like when spray wax is not wiped off completely and drys. I kept buffing it off, but the haze kept coming back. I was thinking that the Meguiar's spray detailer may not be compatible with Adam's waxes. Any ideas?

Adam's Polishes · 10-27-2011, 12:04 PM

Would be really unusual for a wax coat that had been applied a week + in advance to have any impact on how a quick detailer worked. What were the conditions like?

Hot or cold?
Direct sun or shade?
Humidity high or low?

Detailing products are all very much impacted by the ambient temps and humidity and it wouldn't be unusual for a spray product to smear/haze if the conditions were less than ideal. Since it wasn't our stuff its hard to say exactly what might have been acting on it, but if I had to guess I'd say it was just the conditions.

GPC1 · 10-27-2011, 03:43 PM

I wonder if it's possible that the mixing of the 2 different products is causing the haze problem. We've found that happen here a few times. We typically use all Adams products but our lot attendants have some different, "cheaper" products that they use. When mixed with some of the Adams, we had similar results.

CamaroDreams07 · 10-27-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GPC1

I wonder if it's possible that the mixing of the 2 different products is causing the haze problem. We've found that happen here a few times. We typically use all Adams products but our lot attendants have some different, "cheaper" products that they use. When mixed with some of the Adams, we had similar results.

I know this isn't the case here. I've used the exact same combination before with no problems because I carry Megs DS in my trunk since the Adam's bottles leak like hell when they get hot. That is, until I figured out I could just put Adam's DS IN the Meg's bottle

Adam's Polishes · 10-27-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

I figured out I could just put Adam's DS IN the Meg's bottle

BLASPHEMY!!

ctk1 · 10-27-2011, 06:06 PM

The conditions were pretty nice. I initially wiped the cars down in my garage. It was about 70 degrees and not in the sun. At the show it was about 75 or so, and sunny. I didn't spray any more detailer at the show. The cars just kept hazing up on their own. I would buff them with a microfiber, and come back about 20 minutes later and they would be hazy again. I'm thinking that maybe the products just don't mix well.

CamaroDreams07 · 10-27-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ctk1

The conditions were pretty nice. I initially wiped the cars down in my garage. It was about 70 degrees and not in the sun. At the show it was about 75 or so, and sunny. I didn't spray any more detailer at the show. The cars just kept hazing up on their own. I would buff them with a microfiber, and come back about 20 minutes later and they would be hazy again. I'm thinking that maybe the products just don't mix well.

That's really weird. Was it super humid?

Adam's Polishes · 10-27-2011, 07:41 PM

When you applied the Machine Sealant did you give it about 30 minutes to cure before removing?

Did you wait the mandatory 12-24 hours before applying the glaze over the top?

ctk1 · 10-27-2011, 10:00 PM

I don't know that I gave the sealant 30 minutes...I would say maybe 25 or so. I did wait 24hrs + for the brilliant glaze though. Maybe it was just a weather thing. I didn't notice much humidity but could be wrong.

Adam's Polishes · 10-28-2011, 01:01 AM

Cold and humidity will require you to give it more time to cure. If the temps are below about 65* I'd say wait 30-45 minutes to let it properly cure.

That may not be your issue, but it could be, hard to say. For your finish to just keep clouding up on its own is pretty unusual.

EM1/SS · 10-28-2011, 08:23 AM

Dylan,

If you have a question if it cured properly, is there any problem just waiting an hour or so?

GPC1 · 10-28-2011, 08:49 AM

Interesting...

Adam's Polishes · 10-28-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EM1/SS

Dylan,

If you have a question if it cured properly, is there any problem just waiting an hour or so?

No... I've heard of people waiting hours between first application and removal without any issues. I've never personally tried, but other than maybe being a tad harder to remove there shouldn't be any issues.

10-27-2011, 11:27 AM	#1
ctk1 Camarofanatic Drives: 1969 SS, 1998 RS, 2010 VR 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gallitzin PA Posts: 1,433	Adam's question Hey guys I have a quick Adam's question. I recently did the Fine Machine Polish, Machine Sealant, and Brilliant Glaze to my 3 cars. Last weekend I took them to a carshow. They hadn't been driven since the full detail so I just used Meguiar's spray detailer to freshen them up. I noticed when I got to the show that 2 of the cars has haze marks on them like when spray wax is not wiped off completely and drys. I kept buffing it off, but the haze kept coming back. I was thinking that the Meguiar's spray detailer may not be compatible with Adam's waxes. Any ideas? __________________ 2010 Victory Red R6P 2SS w/RS package. Gloss black Rallys, 6 speed manual, SLP Loudmouth I exhaust, LS7 style blackout panel, SS emblems front and rear, Custom 69 inspired headlight covers, Vararam no tune, Hurst Short Throw, and MTI Racing rear spoiler, SLP Front Splitter, ZL1 Side Skirts

10-27-2011, 06:06 PM	#6
ctk1 Camarofanatic Drives: 1969 SS, 1998 RS, 2010 VR 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gallitzin PA Posts: 1,433	The conditions were pretty nice. I initially wiped the cars down in my garage. It was about 70 degrees and not in the sun. At the show it was about 75 or so, and sunny. I didn't spray any more detailer at the show. The cars just kept hazing up on their own. I would buff them with a microfiber, and come back about 20 minutes later and they would be hazy again. I'm thinking that maybe the products just don't mix well. __________________ 2010 Victory Red R6P 2SS w/RS package. Gloss black Rallys, 6 speed manual, SLP Loudmouth I exhaust, LS7 style blackout panel, SS emblems front and rear, Custom 69 inspired headlight covers, Vararam no tune, Hurst Short Throw, and MTI Racing rear spoiler, SLP Front Splitter, ZL1 Side Skirts

10-27-2011, 10:00 PM	#9
ctk1 Camarofanatic Drives: 1969 SS, 1998 RS, 2010 VR 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gallitzin PA Posts: 1,433	I don't know that I gave the sealant 30 minutes...I would say maybe 25 or so. I did wait 24hrs + for the brilliant glaze though. Maybe it was just a weather thing. I didn't notice much humidity but could be wrong. __________________ 2010 Victory Red R6P 2SS w/RS package. Gloss black Rallys, 6 speed manual, SLP Loudmouth I exhaust, LS7 style blackout panel, SS emblems front and rear, Custom 69 inspired headlight covers, Vararam no tune, Hurst Short Throw, and MTI Racing rear spoiler, SLP Front Splitter, ZL1 Side Skirts

10-28-2011, 08:23 AM	#11
EM1/SS Drives: 11 2SS/RS M6 vert Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NSB, FL Posts: 705	Dylan, If you have a question if it cured properly, is there any problem just waiting an hour or so? __________________ LSA supercharger, Borla S-Type cat back, BMR/ Pedders Suspension, Kooks stepped LT's, GM 3.91, and RDP tune.

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Adam's Polishes Drives: The shiny ones. Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: In the detail shop! Posts: 5,979	Would be really unusual for a wax coat that had been applied a week + in advance to have any impact on how a quick detailer worked. What were the conditions like? Hot or cold? Direct sun or shade? Humidity high or low? Detailing products are all very much impacted by the ambient temps and humidity and it wouldn't be unusual for a spray product to smear/haze if the conditions were less than ideal. Since it wasn't our stuff its hard to say exactly what might have been acting on it, but if I had to guess I'd say it was just the conditions.

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GPC1 Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NEW ALEXANDRIA PA Posts: 1,300	I wonder if it's possible that the mixing of the 2 different products is causing the haze problem. We've found that happen here a few times. We typically use all Adams products but our lot attendants have some different, "cheaper" products that they use. When mixed with some of the Adams, we had similar results.

10-27-2011, 07:41 PM	#8
Adam's Polishes Drives: The shiny ones. Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: In the detail shop! Posts: 5,979	When you applied the Machine Sealant did you give it about 30 minutes to cure before removing? Did you wait the mandatory 12-24 hours before applying the glaze over the top?

10-28-2011, 01:01 AM	#10
Adam's Polishes Drives: The shiny ones. Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: In the detail shop! Posts: 5,979	Cold and humidity will require you to give it more time to cure. If the temps are below about 65* I'd say wait 30-45 minutes to let it properly cure. That may not be your issue, but it could be, hard to say. For your finish to just keep clouding up on its own is pretty unusual.

10-28-2011, 08:49 AM	#12
GPC1 Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NEW ALEXANDRIA PA Posts: 1,300	Interesting...