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Old 07-01-2014, 03:57 PM   #267
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707hp and 4500LBS do not see an issue
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:02 PM   #268
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I was right about the 700 number lets see if the rumors of $80k+ price hold true
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:03 PM   #269
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707hp and 4500LBS do not see an issue
I knew well in advance that the HP number was going to be 700+.... but as I mentioned this car will be a straight line star. Too much weight to be a track star. Witch you would love since you care more about going in a straight line
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:09 PM   #270
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1/4 mile is fine as they come out I'm sure that they will point out track times and all the performance that this car has
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:10 PM   #271
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The Hellcat will move forward by rotating the planet beneath it.

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Old 07-01-2014, 04:10 PM   #272
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Game Changer will have 600+hp to the rear wheels

I can see costs at 1st in the stratosphere

Now GM and Ford will do 1 of 2 things bring up the HP of the Mustang and Camaro or just concede and hope it is short lived and does not last

just curious why?

ford makes a 662hp v8 mustang that weighs around 3850 pounds so around 5.8lb/hp while a 4400lb challenger at 707hp would be about 6.2lb/hp
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:18 PM   #273
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1/4 mile is fine as they come out I'm sure that they will point out track times and all the performance that this car has
I'm curious to see what this will do on the track. All the advertising shows it on a roadcourse. Will it beat. Z28? I doubt it. The only way is if it destroys the straights to make up for the turns.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:29 PM   #274
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Game Changer will have 600+hp to the rear wheels

I can see costs at 1st in the stratosphere

Now GM and Ford will do 1 of 2 things bring up the HP of the Mustang and Camaro or just concede and hope it is short lived and does not last
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just curious why?

ford makes a 662hp v8 mustang that weighs around 3850 pounds so around 5.8lb/hp while a 4400lb challenger at 707hp would be about 6.2lb/hp
I bet whp will be nearly the same as the 662hp GT500 that put's down 60Xwhp quite regularly. It also weighs a lot less but weight isn't always as big of a factor as people want to make it out to be, case and point those heavy ass twin turbo 5.5L V8 AMG sedans that can run 11's with only 550hp.

I wouldn't be surprised if it could run a quicker ET but then a 13-14 GT500 but that would only be due to the SRT having the auto advantage. I cant see the SRT trapping much higher if any at all then the GT500 with traps 125 in the hands of journalists. Get them going from a roll and I think the GT500 may get the win.

Kudos to Dodge for worrying how its Viper customers will feel about not having the most powerful engine in the brand. GM could learn a lot from this as its not always about horsepower. The Viper is in a totally different league and nobody in their right mind would be cross shopping the two.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:36 PM   #275
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Color me impressed. Wonder if it can turn.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:48 PM   #276
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Who cares if it can turn? It's got 707 hp! Crazy.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:54 PM   #277
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GT 500 is out of production coming out with a smaller GT 350 not sure but I was under the impression that it would be lower in HP
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:55 PM   #278
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The GT350 is essentially replacing the BOSS 302. No one really knows what the deal is for the GT500. It'll probably miss a MY.
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Old 07-01-2014, 05:00 PM   #279
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2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat (707 HP)

The numbers were just released, 707 HP 650 ft.-lbs.! Chevy better step it up for the 6th gen.
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If you like 1/4 as you say you do, you should know this simple fact that the P Zero Trofeo R tires ARE NOT a drag strip tire, they are a road course tire. Try launching 420 lb-ft on a 30 series tire. either your spinning the first 60ft or riding the clutch. I don't care how wide your rubber is if you have a low profile sidewall (35 series and below) good luck getting traction off the line.



Compare Manual vs. Manual than see what the times are. BTW, what is Dodge saying for the Manual 392 times?



Do you have any proof to that? GM and Ford made it very clear what car they were targeting when they release the ZL1, Boss 302, GT500, 1LE, Z/28 etc. From the videos of the hellcat there is no mention of competitor/benchmark cars...hmm...suspicious.

You are crazy about the tires. There are PLENTY of 35 series tires that are drag radials. This 315 nt05 would dead hook that stock ls7.
http://mobile.nittotire.com/tires/nt...d=17&x=32&y=15

First its dont compare 1/4 bc the car isnt designed for it. Now its the tires. Bottom line its a performance car (fast). Meaning it should be fast at all times. Now should it excel at the strip like it does at the road course? Prolly not. Even more so for the tires. Trust me those are some STICKY tires. Very very sticky. They'll without doubt will hook 10x better on a prepped track over a 255 goodyear eagle supercar tire.

For what ever reason the 6spd challengers always sucked. As far as the future 392 idk. I do know this 10.90 pass was said to be a 6spd and that the auto car was faster.

Dodge has already said it tested the hell cat against the zl1,gt500, and even a c6z. The z i could see being an engineers car and prolly just threw it out there to see hiw it did.


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